So what of this terror attack in Sweden?

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This middle-aged lady agrees with you.

Maybe Trump could round up the liberals and put them in camps; we wouldn't have to listen to the whining, and the liberals would be thrilled to have been right about Trump the whole time. Win-win, right?

The time to close the barn door is before the horse gets out of the barn.

'But their whining and threshing about is the fuel that powers Trump and his supporters, they still haven't figured out this is game of jiu-jitsu doesn't work to their favor. People dislike Trump's opposition far more than people dislike Trump; they support his policies, he's keeping his promises, and I see the economy to starting to get moving again. Obama did build all those FEMA camps ready-to-go however...

Exactly, and the left doesn't seem to realize how much they're alienating moderate Democrats with their hysteria, though I suppose that's hardly new, seeing as how I'm where I am politically in large part due to it. I've had a surprisingly large number of conversations with people here in Seattle that have been to the effect of "I'm no Trump supporter, but the reaction to him is a bit much...", so I can only imagine how prevalent that feeling is outside of the coastal corridors.

Well you know what they say about guys who need to brag about having a big gun. I think it's interesting that we're seeing such a display of someone coming completely unglued, which has become the stereotype of a leftist.

I wouldn't be thrilled at all.I'm too old to relocate to some damm Trump camp.Why,the train ride alone could prove fatal.
There'd be a helluva a tussle loading me up.

I absolutely don't want to downplay the damage although it does sound rather localised. I do think it's silly to say "some immigrants rioted so that means immigrants are bad" when you have non-immigrant riots all the time, or "an immigrant got caught planning a shooting so immigrants are bad" when all sorts of people plan shootings (well, mostly young men).

That sort of statement simply cannot be a fact. It's like "America has a gun problem" or "America has a speech problem". What constitutes a "refugee problem"? That is always going to require a judgement call. Yes, there might be some cases where it is very hard to deny (if the murder rate had doubled, for example) but there's no way you can "prove" that "a problem" exists. You could prove that the murder rate had doubled, but not that it was a problem. When you're talking about tiny fluctuations in crime rates that may be largely explained by reporting practices, how can you possibly say that it is a "fact" that this issue is objectively a "problem"? You need to make value calls, and those are not matters of fact.

To put it in other terms: this week a young man was arrested because he tried to carry out a shooting in the name of white supremacy. Does America have a "white Americans" problem? No, but maybe it has a problem with the sociological factors that lead to people becoming violence supremacists. So, I would imagine, do many other countries.

In the case of this one riot, I believe it took place in an area dominated by migrants from former Yugoslavia and their descendants. It was majority-migrant well before this refugee crisis began. There doesn't seem to be any evidence tying it to refugees.


This might be what sections of the mainstream media have been telling you, but there's absolutely no risk of Sweden destroying itself before long. It's a thriving country. It's never really been a leftist fantasy. It's actually a very liberal one. It had a brief flirtation with leftism that didn't work out, and has been doing much better since returning to its liberal roots.

Spain is one of the more conservative countries in Europe, but last week there was a huge protest calling for the government to accept more refugees. Things aren't as bad here as the mainstream media would have you believe.

Things will continue to play out if the same policies are followed, it is inevitable. Sweden is having a lot of trouble housing these refugees barely any of whom work, nobody seems to really deny that there are 'no-go' areas in the country. I think having a population of Islamists is a problem period, the UK has one too, the US should never allow such a community to develop in this country. It's a ticking time bomb if you will.

I have to wonder why it's such a mess where they're fleeing from and it's not going to end up getting transplanted elsewhere.

Maybe this is what he saw?

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/02/ ... stigation/
The abuse is "an epidemic," said Mark Kosieradzki, a Minnesota attorney who has represented a number of victims and their families, including Fischer, the woman who recounted her mother's rape in court.

More than 16,000 complaints of sexual abuse have been reported since 2000 in long-term care facilities (which include both nursing homes and assisted living facilities), according to federal data housed by the Administration for Community Living.

Maybe not the right country, but you can't trust the news.

You just can't make this stuff up.

Riots erupt in Sweden’s capital just days after Trump comments

I think Trump is clairvoyant or whatever. It seems to me there's been a few occasions now where he's made a statement about something like this and people saying he's jumping to conclusions or is uninformed or making up an incident - and then it turns out he's correct like he knew it all along.

And foreseeing things myself, it was Conway who said "Bowling Green Massacre", not Trump.

The writing was on the wall for anybody that wanted to see it, I've mentioned Sweden's refugee policy before and in general I've paid attention to the happenings in Europe in recent years. I think if people had the same understanding as me they would at least agree that there is a significant problem. Fewer than 500 out of 163,000+ refugees have found a job in Sweden, it's an unbelievable number but it is accurate. Americans should not invite these problems to our shores, we need to learn from Europe's mistakes.