Muslims say; religious freedom for me, but not for thee.

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When it comes to politics, liberals fall in love, conservatives fall in line.

I am not going bother dealing with every crazy thing posted or every personal attack from someine who has nothing else to use in the discussion, so I like just point out the way their arguments vary from reality and how they are using the logical fallicies. With the logical fallicies, I dont have to explain it, if they want to know, they can look it up.

My graduate studies was a mix of botany and philosophy.

Realy what I am saying, is that if you had better arguments, you wouldnt need to rely on the fallicies.

Im hoping at some point you will show me how I am using informal logical fallicies incorrectly

And you arewrong. You and all your buddies have proven I dont really fit in here.

From the consistency of some of the comments attacking me, I suspect some level of organization among them. Certainly, it's a concerted, deliberate attempt to silence voices who expose their tactics.

If you quit, the terrorists win.

Im pretty sure half of them are what they refer to as "sock puppets", a different login, same person.

Ezra, Jacoby, adifferentname and Raptor all seem real. I wouldnt count on the rest.

Even so, they do all seem to jump on the bandwagon.

I think we have some sophisticated puppet hunters here. If you have real concerns about a couple of posters, you may as well report it. I don't think they would delete an account without real justification, but of course they are doing it on a volunteer basis and it would be counterproductive to waste their time.

Watching the conformity spread serves me well to hone my meme-hunting skills.

That would just lead to a protracted unproductive argument.



Alright. Well I hope you find peace somewhere down the line. I understand that it hasn't been easy for you.

"The data" which is unsubstantiated sources. Again, this is opinion, not fact.

I have nothing against Islam. It's just another Abrahamic religion, like Judaism and Christianity. I'm an Atheist, so have no interest in Islam in a personal sense anymore than I do the two I mentioned or any other major or minor league religion. I think that most of the pieces people take offense in from the Qur'an are generally mirrored somewhere in the Bible. I also think Christians have a tendency to be incredibly intolerant of other religions, and in my country seem determined that their religious beliefs should determine our laws, but don't get much vitriol for it. I also know a number of people who are Islamic and they're perfectly decent people. Most practitioners are. Extremists aren't an entire religion - should Christianity as a whole be judged by the KKK or the ones who bomb abortion clinics?

I don't agree with that, let me explain. The difference between Islam and Christianity is that the qu'ran encourages people to become Jihad( what we see as radical terrorism) and granting them a reward for fighting in the name of their god. The first Jihad was Muhammed, he is a role model for many Muslims. And if you read the qu'ran you can find many of the cruel deeds he performed. Terrorists are only following the instructions given to them by their holy book and prophet and they expect to be given a reward for doing so. And if any Muslim argues otherwise or says that's not true. He actually says his prophet and god are both a lie, which is blasphemy. Putting them in apostacy which has the death penalty in Sharia law.

Ok. now lets move on to the Bible. Christians believe in the teachings of Jesus. And Jesus says we should love our neighbour like we love ourself. Your neighbour is literally anyone you come across(This includes homosexuals, rapists, murderers, nazi's, black people, white people, you get the point). We are expected to love them unconditionaly. A Christian extremist is someone who obeys these teachings of Jesus and wouldn't dare to harm anyone. Making a KKK member a non extremist.

Pff, that was a lot of text. If you are going to point on Deutonomery and Leviticus now you will wear me out . Have a good one

Muhammad said that LGBT people, adulteresses, and people who try to leave the religion should be executed, and that there is no greater honor than to fight and die in the name of God.

Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone", and "he who lives by the sword will die by the sword."

I'm not exactly Christianity's biggest fan, but give me Jesus over Muhammad any day.

Some of the christians here want you to accept that false choice. I will fight against any theocracy.

The right wing christians have lots of weaseling to do if they hope to convince anyone that Jesus supported Leviticanism.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Obviously. But I will also oppose a thelemic theocracy.

Haha if there's any two in PPR who seem similar in personality it's you and jrjones.

I think a theocracy goes against the spirit of Thelema. Those who are fit to lead will naturally lead, and those who are fit to follow will naturally follow. The True Will doesn't need to be enforced.

Ah, I hate to break.it to you but jihad is a lot broader than you seem to think. It literally just means struggle. In a religious sense, as described by the Quran and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (s), "jihad" has many meanings. It can refer to internal as well as external efforts to be a good Muslims or believer, as well as working to inform people about the faith of Islam.

The Bible is incredibly violent and God is described as a "jealous God." Also you literally just lumped gay people together with rapists and Nazis great f*****g job lmao. The Bible does not preach unconditional love either lol. And Christianity was still taking over other lands in their name (violently) into the 20th century. Next.

The KKK identifies themselves as a Christian group my guy. If they say they're Christian then that means their Christian, since by your logic if a terrorist who also practices Islam is still Islamic (I can't remember the exact quote, but in the Qur'an it says that to kill on person is to kill all of mankind - therefore they are going against their own religion, and by that basis are not actually true practitioners anymore than members of the KKK are by your standards).

"It is called herem, and it means total annihilation. Consider the Book of 1 Samuel, when God instructs King Saul to attack the Amalekites: "And utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them," God says through the prophet Samuel. "But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."

When Saul failed to do that, God took away his kingdom."

Consider that lol. Christian white supremacists are also known to bring up Phineas when calling for racial purity.

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