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24 Jan 2018, 5:23 pm

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Blacks, women, gays, Muslims, and others had been denied entry into the system for so long because others had held their identities against them. It was the right who had labeled them with this or that identity in the first place.[/quote

You actually believe that? Wow.


By 2050 whites will very likely be a minority in the US, as in collectively outnumbered. If you and others like you are still alive by then, I'm wondering what you will do.


They should probably just enjoy the sexy señoritas. :mrgreen:


RVA and others like him will have to live in a USA where they have lost completely and where tolerance and diversity reign.


'Tolerance' as only tolerating certain views. And 'diversity' as less white people. Can't white people be 'diverse'?


By tolerance I mean accepting people as they are, and not as others imagine them to be. As autistics we should be in favor of this. And yes, less white people, certainly a smaller percentage, as in below 50. It will happen, and that is a fact.


Don't tell me what I "should" be in favor of. I am in favor of freedom of expression. Where's the calls for 'diversity' in African and Asian countries?


Sounds like the racists who want to go back to segregation and call it "freedom of association". As for diversity, I'm not calling for anything. I'm pointing out a reality in the US today.


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24 Jan 2018, 5:24 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
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'Tolerance' as only tolerating certain views.


I'll try to keep the more authoritarian sections of the left in check.

Unlike some leftists, I'm for free speech.

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And 'diversity' as less white people. Can't white people be 'diverse'?


Yes, white people can be diverse. We have always been diverse.

Will diversity lead to less white people? No. White people are choosing to have fewer kids. That's their choice. It's not like white people will be sent to gas chambers or anything.


There's no reasoning with them, same with the 'alt-right'. If a fact hits them that doesn't fit their narrative, they implode or just lie/ignore it.

People are basically being told it is a crime to be white guy.


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24 Jan 2018, 5:26 pm

RainbowUnion wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
rvacountrysinger wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Blacks, women, gays, Muslims, and others had been denied entry into the system for so long because others had held their identities against them. It was the right who had labeled them with this or that identity in the first place.[/quote

You actually believe that? Wow.


By 2050 whites will very likely be a minority in the US, as in collectively outnumbered. If you and others like you are still alive by then, I'm wondering what you will do.


They should probably just enjoy the sexy señoritas. :mrgreen:


RVA and others like him will have to live in a USA where they have lost completely and where tolerance and diversity reign.


'Tolerance' as only tolerating certain views. And 'diversity' as less white people. Can't white people be 'diverse'?


By tolerance I mean accepting people as they are, and not as others imagine them to be. As autistics we should be in favor of this. And yes, less white people, certainly a smaller percentage, as in below 50. It will happen, and that is a fact.


Don't tell me what I "should" be in favor of. I am in favor of freedom of expression. Where's the calls for 'diversity' in African and Asian countries?


Sounds like the racists who want to go back to segregation and call it "freedom of association". As for diversity, I'm not calling for anything. I'm pointing out a reality in the US today.


Calling for freedom of expression is like being a racist? Can any view you disagree with not be labelled with ism/ist at the end?


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24 Jan 2018, 5:31 pm

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Don't tell me what I "should" be in favor of. I am in favor of freedom of expression. Where's the calls for 'diversity' in African and Asian countries?


Nearly all liberals acknowledge that racism exists in Zimbabwe. We've been commenting on Mugabe's racism for quite some time now. That's why we were glad when he was overthrown.

We also acknowledge the racism exists in China. This is largely because China is a far-right dictatorship. Although China considers itself to be a socialist state, it, in practice, functions more like a far-right fascist state.


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24 Jan 2018, 5:34 pm

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Sounds like the racists who want to go back to segregation and call it "freedom of association". As for diversity, I'm not calling for anything. I'm pointing out a reality in the US today.


Don't put free speech on the same level as segregation.

Segregation can ruin lives. Speech is only bad if it involves overt threats of violence.


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24 Jan 2018, 5:43 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
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Sounds like the racists who want to go back to segregation and call it "freedom of association". As for diversity, I'm not calling for anything. I'm pointing out a reality in the US today.


Don't put free speech on the same level as segregation.

Segregation can ruin lives. Speech is only bad if it involves overt threats of violence.


Racist speech can also ruin lives. It creates an atmosphere conductive to hate. Racists in the US do this all the time and claim its just "free speech" and "the truth about blacks" and etc.


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24 Jan 2018, 5:48 pm

RainbowUnion wrote:
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Sounds like the racists who want to go back to segregation and call it "freedom of association". As for diversity, I'm not calling for anything. I'm pointing out a reality in the US today.


Don't put free speech on the same level as segregation.

Segregation can ruin lives. Speech is only bad if it involves overt threats of violence.


Racist speech can also ruin lives. It creates an atmosphere conductive to hate. Racists in the US do this all the time and claim its just "free speech" and "the truth about blacks" and etc.


... and then the left doesn't bother to refute anything that the racists say.

That's the real reason why racism has been spreading out of control. Racism can be scientifically refuted, but most people don't bother to refute it.


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24 Jan 2018, 6:10 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
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'Tolerance' as only tolerating certain views.


I'll try to keep the more authoritarian sections of the left in check.

Unlike some leftists, I'm for free speech.

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And 'diversity' as less white people. Can't white people be 'diverse'?


Yes, white people can be diverse. We have always been diverse.

Will diversity lead to less white people? No. White people are choosing to have fewer kids. That's their choice. It's not like white people will be sent to gas chambers or anything.


There's no reasoning with them, same with the 'alt-right'. If a fact hits them that doesn't fit their narrative, they implode or just lie/ignore it.

People are basically being told it is a crime to be white guy.


Nobody is being told being white is a crime. That's just what racists like David Duke and Richard Spencer tell their followers, so they can pretend diversity and tolerance is victimizing them.


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24 Jan 2018, 6:19 pm

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Nobody is being told being white is a crime. That's just what racists like David Duke and Richard Spencer tell their followers, so they can pretend diversity and tolerance is victimizing them.


Actually, there are some Tumblr users who insist that all white people are racist and insist that non-white people can't be racist. People like that ruin the left.


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24 Jan 2018, 6:31 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
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Nobody is being told being white is a crime. That's just what racists like David Duke and Richard Spencer tell their followers, so they can pretend diversity and tolerance is victimizing them.


Actually, there are some Tumblr users who insist that all white people are racist and insist that non-white people can't be racist. People like that ruin the left.


Then let me qualify that with: nobody of importance or of substance is saying that.


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24 Jan 2018, 7:19 pm

"Conservatives" and "anti-feminists" are disrespectful. Some people, like certain YouTubers or journalists, take advantage of them to earn money. Or, perhaps more accurately, they also breed them. Stay away from them, their words are chosen to calm anxieties inside you. Like let's say you're feeling rejected by society, like an outcast, then you feel like you're disrespected and so you don't wanna respect others on your own cost by having things such as economic programs for jobless. Or perhaps women reject you so you don't wanna respect their needs to feel beautiful and belonging to society, respected and stuff. Also they may sound very convincing, though be not fooled, it's often just that they ignore big parts of reality and only focus on small fragments of it that support their proposed view. They also try to sound smart. They may try to say certain facts that are true (but noone else really objected to that they're true) and then they say other things, disrespectful bs, and because they said one true thing the other must be true as well. They also try to sound smart and pick a few rare cases of over-the-top things and then apply that to much more. They're filled with tricks, and that's basically it. I'm not judging anyone who are fooled by them too harshly, they're just taken advantage of. Personally I've watched so. f*****g. many. hours. of "anti-feminist" and "conservative" garbage, but never again will I be fooled (about this). -_-


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24 Jan 2018, 7:20 pm

Ofc. when it comes to economics certain things may not work. But that's not what I talked about.


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24 Jan 2018, 7:49 pm

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Nobody is being told being white is a crime.

Watch "Cops".

When cops see white people in a black ghetto they think they're there for drugs or prostitution.


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24 Jan 2018, 9:33 pm

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Nobody is being told being white is a crime.

Watch "Cops".

When cops see white people in a black ghetto they think they're there for drugs or prostitution.


And yet in comparison, how many more blacks get arrested for drugs? Whites and blacks use drugs in equal numbers, and yet it's blacks who get sent to prison for the exact same crime. Whites getting arrested buying drugs in black neighborhoods might be one of the few occasions where white stoners are netted.


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26 Jan 2018, 7:52 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
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Don't tell me what I "should" be in favor of. I am in favor of freedom of expression. Where's the calls for 'diversity' in African and Asian countries?


Nearly all liberals acknowledge that racism exists in Zimbabwe. We've been commenting on Mugabe's racism for quite some time now. That's why we were glad when he was overthrown.

We also acknowledge the racism exists in China. This is largely because China is a far-right dictatorship. Although China considers itself to be a socialist state, it, in practice, functions more like a far-right fascist state.


But where are the calls for diversity and mass immigration to change the face of China?


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26 Jan 2018, 7:53 pm

RainbowUnion wrote:
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RainbowUnion wrote:
Sounds like the racists who want to go back to segregation and call it "freedom of association". As for diversity, I'm not calling for anything. I'm pointing out a reality in the US today.


Don't put free speech on the same level as segregation.

Segregation can ruin lives. Speech is only bad if it involves overt threats of violence.


Racist speech can also ruin lives. It creates an atmosphere conductive to hate. Racists in the US do this all the time and claim its just "free speech" and "the truth about blacks" and etc.


Speech can only ruin lives when you condition people to be offended or yes a threat.


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