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02 May 2006, 1:25 pm

Emp please get out of my post, thank you :).


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02 May 2006, 3:02 pm

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Emp please get out of my post, thank you :).


This is how the brain-washing of biblical literalism works. Silence the opposition. :twisted:


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02 May 2006, 5:59 pm

No but this post is for Aspie Christians, he is 1 but not the other (so are you it seems) so you have no business here.


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02 May 2006, 8:29 pm

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No but this post is for Aspie Christians, he is 1 but not the other (so are you it seems) so you have no business here.


Do you mean in the same manner that the bible has no buisness making statements about scientific facts??


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02 May 2006, 8:34 pm

You must be looking for an asskicking, but anyway Ill let you say that if you can tell me how creatures formed with the 2nd law of thermodynamics the way it is.


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02 May 2006, 8:48 pm

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You must be looking for an asskicking, but anyway Ill let you say that if you can tell me how creatures formed with the 2nd law of thermodynamics the way it is.


HA!! ! This is an easy one!! ! christians trying to use the 2nd law of thermodynamics to disprove evolution ignore one simple fact.

The earth isn't a closed loop system. It's always receiving energy from the sun. DUH!! !


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02 May 2006, 9:04 pm

By the way, just in case anyone thought I posted a fake bible quote or was making a joke, no, the bible really does contain that quote. Get your bible and look it up. Mark 4:11-12.

Jesus really does say that he talks in parables so that people will not understand it, so that they will not be forgiven.



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02 May 2006, 10:25 pm

It's still a reaction creating less entropy, heck the big bang is too for that matter.


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03 May 2006, 2:53 pm

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It's still a reaction creating less entropy, heck the big bang is too for that matter.


You are quite correct. An open thermodynamic system creates less entropy. THIS PROVES MY POINT AND INVALIDATES YOURS!! !

Scientific thought obviously isn't your forte. Stick to religious dogma.

You only need to bleat this:

Evolution bad Creation good

Science bad Bible good

Two feet bad Four feet good :twisted:


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03 May 2006, 4:50 pm

You seem like the type that burns bibles in your spare time when should I start preparing for your type to make relegion illegal??? Oh and I got an A in an advanced chem class this year though yeah I am generally better with social sciences then the natural variety.


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09 May 2006, 4:28 pm

I do find studying the Bible by myself quite hard. But I love small group studies because no one thinks like me. Therefore, the things I "get", help the other more "normal" people, while what they "get" helps me. What I really think is cool about the Bible is that it is living. Just read one of the books and then wait 10 years and read it again. It will mean something completely different then. I love how it communicates to my needs anytime. It is super natural but much more fun in a group I feel safe with.

I really don't think it is just a history book though. I think it talks to me now and the symbolism I get is for me while others will get other things.

When Jesus was talking to the rich man, he told him to give away everything and follow him. But when the religious leader ask him how to get to heaven, He told him a weird where does the wind come from? Then basically told the leader, you can't do it, it has to come from above. How cool - that the same question produced a different response from Jesus based on the individual who asked the question.

God is Super Natural! He is sooo cool.



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09 May 2006, 7:44 pm

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What I really think is cool about the Bible is that it is living. Just read one of the books and then wait 10 years and read it again. It will mean something completely different then. I love how it communicates to my needs anytime. It is super natural but much more fun in a group I feel safe with.

God is Super Natural! He is sooo cool.



This simply proves that your mind creates god. Not the other way around. It also proves that religion IS the opiate of the masses. :twisted:


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10 May 2006, 1:05 am

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You seem like the type that burns bibles in your spare time when should I start preparing for your type to make relegion illegal???


Make religion illegal?? But atheists want government and religion to be SEPARATE. If religion were made illegal, then there would be a connection between the 2. That is contrary to what most atheists want. We do not want religion made illegal, rather we want people to wake up and stop being so gullible and naive.

Basically you are thinking like a religious person. As a religious person, you think in terms of burning books and outlawing people who disagree, therefore you think that atheists would do the same thing. No. Atheists are happy to "live and let live", although this does not mean they will be mute.

For example, I think the bible is disgustingly immoral and perverted, and holding it sacred is insane. However, I do NOT want to burn all copies of the bible. On the contrary, it should be retained in libraries as an example of the lunacy and immorality of primitive people. It should be kept for historical reference. People can learn from it as an example of how immoral people were in the past. Religion and the bible should be studied by psychologists. Religion should be recognized by psychology as the pathology that it is. And to do this, we need to keep the bible, not burn it.

No sensible atheist wants to outlaw religion or burn books because then we would have become as bad as the christians. Religion advocates persecution. Atheists advocate education.



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10 May 2006, 2:24 pm

Wow Scrapheap!

In one post I have SIMPLY PROOVED that God is created in my mind and that it is the opiate of the masses! When will I be rich and famous? I didn't know I had it in me! Just kidding. I just think your quote to my experience was a little silly. I have some really cool experiences that prove God is real. For some reason I think emp really believes what he says. But you are bashing a Christian who would never bash your beliefs & it confuses me as to what you really believe in. But, I'm not great at understanding others emotions or feelings anyway!

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10 May 2006, 8:27 pm

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Wow Scrapheap!

In one post I have SIMPLY PROOVED that God is created in my mind and that it is the opiate of the masses! When will I be rich and famous? I didn't know I had it in me! Just kidding. I just think your quote to my experience was a little silly.

Do you have a more logical explination how the same words change meaning??

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I have some really cool experiences that prove God is real.


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. You have no empirical evidence that Jehova/Yavwey god of Abraham is real.
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For some reason I think emp really believes what he says.


He does and he has facts to back up what he says.
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But you are bashing a Christian who would never bash your beliefs & it confuses me as to what you really believe in. But, I'm not great at understanding others emotions or feelings anyway!

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I don't have 'beliefs'. I'm O.K. with the answer "I don't know". I don't try to use a make believe god to explain something I don't understand.


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10 May 2006, 8:56 pm

LOGIC? Faith has nothing to do with logic.
Explain cancer, it exist, but no one can logically prove anything about it fully - yet. I am convinced that very few of us really know what logic really is....and if we do, it is only in very limited proportions confused by our very large baggage.

I am not bashing you or try to prove or disprove any belief you have.

Emp's facts are still his beliefs - not proofs. I don't know him, but I don't think he trys to prove anything.

I don't know everything about God - nor have I said I do. But I have experienced Him. I know He has revealed Himself to me. That is my experience.

Tell me exactly what you mean by empirical evidence if you are wanting proof. If you don't want proof or just don't care - don't let what I write bother you.