[ POLL ] Are you offended when people criticize Trump?

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13 Jan 2019, 3:36 pm

No problem with criticizing Trump. I just don't understand why very few on this sites bash the Democrats. They are, after all, pretty much responsible for putting Trump in office. Very confusing to me.

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13 Jan 2019, 3:42 pm

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Well, with a little help from Putin.

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13 Jan 2019, 5:33 pm

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Democrats are angels not able to do anything bad and anything bad they seem to do is other people’s doing nit theirs, they can do no wrong, they are at saviors and we must praise them. At least that’s how it seems.
I hate democrats they ruining my state

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13 Jan 2019, 8:17 pm

...I think the people who voted for Trump put him in office!! !! !! !! :lol:
Sly, you've indicated in the past that you were registered as a Democrat (or your family). Why don't you switch???

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13 Jan 2019, 11:01 pm

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You know Sly279, the same could be said of the Republican party in my home state of Kansas. Governor Brownback just about bankrupt the state, yet could do no wrong in the eyes of his political party. He is now on Trump’s cabinet as a special religious “advisor” to the world. He is why I no longer support that party. I never supported the Democratic Party before and I do not intend to now. I used to blindly vote the Republican party ticket as was typical to do in that state. I now support the best candidate for the job, regardless on what side that they belong. In some ways, the two party system is no longer functioning as it was intended in our country, both sides have problems that they do not seem able to fix (or might not want to). I wish I had a solution, jbut I do not think that it can exist within our society without major pains in the process.

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13 Jan 2019, 11:34 pm

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Of course Trump's personal traits cause his negative actions! He does not have Asperger's, or any form of autism. He probably has some sort of personality disorder, such as Narcissistic Personality Disorder. This is hardly a personality difference that should be tolerated as it's common among psychopaths.

A person with "Narcissistic Personality Disorder" should be welcomed like a person with "Autistic Spectrum Disorder".

The owner of this website made a special forum to discuss other mental conditions (like "Bipolar, Tourettes, Schizophrenia and other psychological conditions...").

Your prejudices, and labeling of people with certain mental conditions as "bad" is an offense to the principal of this site.

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13 Jan 2019, 11:53 pm

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Welcoming a person with NPD to WP is a possibility, but I certainly don't want such a person in the White House.
The conditions themselves aren't bad, but the dangerous actions performed by those with them can be, whether we're talking about an autistic school shooter, or Trump threatening the stability of America's place in the world.

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14 Jan 2019, 4:58 am

i am an australian with no political knowledge really about american politics.
so excuse me if i walk heavy footed into this thread.

i like trump. i can not see how he has a speech impediment.
many people like to show how he has failed in business many times.

there is a rather droll australian song with the lyric "i get knocked down! but i get up again. no body gonna keep me down"

so if trump went bankrupt so many times, how did he get up again and make a fortune all over again so many times?

maybe because he was daring, and fortunes did not go his way, but i kind of find that hard to believe.
bankruptcy is not an admission of failure, but is a tactic to ameliorate debts.
you can not reverse bankruptcy unless you pay your debts, and he must have done so in order to be viable again and again.
bankruptcy gives you time to balance the books with no interest charged in the mean time.

presently he is rich again, and he was very successful in his dealings over and over again.
he even became president, which is no minor accomplishment.

you people have a herd mentality and you castigate him simply to be on the train where everyone else is.
i have lost respect for fnord for being so blind in his condemnation of trump, and that kraigchewer fellow for saying nothing but character assasinations of trump without assessing his achievements.

trump diffused the north korean crisis and he stood up to china and did not let them strangle the life out of the US, and he also wisely wants to halt people scurrying in from foreign countries to the US to eat it's cake.

it will take time for his business plan to grow fruit, but it is already starting to happen.

it is like the year 2K paranoia. everyone was worried that the world would spiral into chaos, but it never happened.

so he was recorded having a bawdy conversation on a bus with a guy. we all do that. but we do not have microphones stuffed under our noses and then the recording broadcast to the world.

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14 Jan 2019, 5:05 am

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Well, with a little help from Putin.

Some would say that's just a red herring the democrats came up with to dodge culpability.

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14 Jan 2019, 5:51 am

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Well, with a little help from Putin.

Some would say that's just a red herring the democrats came up with to dodge culpability.

Why would staunch Republicans like Comey and Mueller think the same thing as the Democrats?

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14 Jan 2019, 6:01 am

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Trump hasn't had any real business achievements. He just gets loans that he defaults on. That's why he sought out Russian oligarchs who were more concerned about making him beholden to them than with getting their money back.
It's not character assassination to point out that Trump has a long history of cheating workers and contractors out of pay, or to point out that he has been denigrating and distancing himself from our allies while embracing autocrats, because it's all true. And that's not even mentioning Trump University which was just a flimflam operation to separate people from their money.
As for Trump's political achievements - - he's left our allies in South Korea vulnerable just so he could make a superficial deal with Kim. Everything else Trump has done on the world stage seems to have been done to make Russia great again at America's expense.

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14 Jan 2019, 7:18 am

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Trump hasn't had any real business achievements. He just gets loans that he defaults on.

how does he do that? he must have a feasible plan of action.
people do not loan you money if you are a wastrel.

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That's why he sought out Russian oligarchs who were more concerned about making him beholden to them than with getting their money back.

how devilishly clever. i do not believe what you say, but if it is true, then he can leave them in the lurch while under the wing of the US. they would have to be stupid to give him money knowing that if he did not do as they wanted, they could not touch him.

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It's not character assassination to point out that Trump has a long history of cheating workers and contractors out of pay, or to point out that he has been denigrating and distancing himself from our allies while embracing autocrats, because it's all true. And that's not even mentioning Trump University which was just a flimflam operation to separate people from their money.
As for Trump's political achievements - - he's left our allies in South Korea vulnerable just so he could make a superficial deal with Kim. Everything else Trump has done on the world stage seems to have been done to make Russia great again at America's expense.

well i do not know about the veracity of what you claim.
i think it is better to cool the worries of the world that the 3rd world war is imminent.
i certainly feel more secure since the meeting of un and trump.

russia is not the ogre you think it is i believe.

i am not interested in world affairs though, so that is all i have to say.

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14 Jan 2019, 7:40 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

EzraS wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

VegetableMan wrote:

Well, with a little help from Putin.

Some would say that's just a red herring the democrats came up with to dodge culpability.

Why would staunch Republicans like Comey and Mueller think the same thing as the Democrats?

I'd say Mueller is doing what he was assigned to do regardless of his political affiliation or personal thoughts. Comey too originally. Although he's probably personally angry at Trump now and has an axe to grind. Maybe Mueller does too on behalf of Comey.

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14 Jan 2019, 2:31 pm

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Trump hasn't had any real business achievements. He just gets loans that he defaults on.

how does he do that? he must have a feasible plan of action.
people do not loan you money if you are a wastrel.

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That's why he sought out Russian oligarchs who were more concerned about making him beholden to them than with getting their money back.

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Absolutely everything I said is true.
And yes, Putin is an ogre. He wants to make Russia a world power again at the expense of America and her western allies, all of whom he blames for Russia's decline in power and prestige.

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14 Jan 2019, 2:34 pm

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VegetableMan wrote:

Well, with a little help from Putin.

Some would say that's just a red herring the democrats came up with to dodge culpability.

Why would staunch Republicans like Comey and Mueller think the same thing as the Democrats?

Yes, Mueller, and Comey before him, are only doing their jobs. And Trump is certainly running scared and displaying conscientiousness of guilt because of it.

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14 Jan 2019, 2:36 pm

William Barr, who could be the next AG, supports the Mueller investigation.

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