What do you think about abortion?

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And after the said 25 years he got evaluated by psychatrists and transported from prison to closed psychiatrical ward. I'm pretty sure the Norwegians will do something similar with Breivik.

BDavro, I have something I would describe as Opposite View Syndrome. If you were pro-life, I would try to present you all the pro-choice arguments.
Some people hate me for it but I can't imagine an intelligent person not considering opposite views, even if ultimately disagreeing with them.

Life is not a blessing.
It is a burden.

I will let you speculate as to my position in regards to abortion, in most situations.

Trynkiewicz got an extra 5 years because they found pedophile pornography on the computer in his cell, and it seems that the prison warden got a reprimand.
Tryniewicz and the legal mess that arose after the abolition of the death penalty in Poland, the so-called "Beast Act" was introduced in 2014, allowing in the case of people convicted of serious crimes, after the end of the period of imprisonment, to place such people in psychiatric facilities, this is done on the basis of Polish civil law, because they have served their punishment based on the penal code, and the Polish conscience prohibits convicting people twice for the same crime, such legal fiction.


And it is always possible, however, that someday the court will release individuals like Trynkiewicz or Bravik

Abortion...

It’s murder. It’s as simple as that. I do believe that it’s acceptable to abort a baby in the case of rape. But because abortion is murder, I think the rapist should be tried as a murderer.

I also look at ANY homicide as being justified if and only if the person, knowingly or unknowingly (doesn’t matter), poses an absolutely certain threat to the life to another. And by that I specifically mean that if your continued existence means that I WILL DIE, then you’re toast, dude, and I don’t care if you’re 8 minutes after conception or if you’re 80 years old. I’m not going down without a fight UNLESS I have a clear, logical REASON, such as if I feel you have more to offer, or if I’m so selfish I’m unwilling to live without you. And what I’m talking about is plain self defense.

All pregnancies are risky, but they’re not THAT risky. To hear some people talk about it, you have to wonder why humans even exist at all. So using the self defense excuse just to escape the consequences of what you knowingly consented to just doesn’t fly with me.

I might add this issue has recently hit close to home for me. My wife and I are trying for #4, one of those situations you don’t know you want until you have it and it’s gone. She had a miscarriage. Within a few weeks, she went from being an expecting mother, to hearing another heartbeat, to no heartbeat, to being on the business end of a D&C (in effect, an abortion). Granted, this happened in a hospital and not at the PP in Jackson. Within a few short minutes she went from cramping and bleeding to back where we were 8 weeks prior. We felt we’d been robbed. Emotional, I know, but it’s unthinkable for us that anyone would WANT to do this and, even worse, that there are groups of people who celebrate it when it happens.

Disposing of a dead body, though unpleasant, is necessary. Giving an uninvited guest in the home a bad case of heavy metal poisoning is unpleasant, but necessary when he makes his evil intentions clear. When it comes to preserving life and freedom, hard decisions have to be made, sometimes without the luxury of time to carefully weigh the consequences. If you wouldn’t casually dispose of a toddler, a grandfather, or anyone at any age, I hardly see why any exception should be made for the womb. Will this baby kill me? No? Have the baby. Yes? It’s either self defense or accidental death, but that’s not your fault.

Having said that, I do think it’s important to carefully consider why a mother would kill her baby and try to offer some compassion. You don’t always know the circumstances or what would drive someone to homicide. Even in the criminal justice system, when women murder their romantic partners, you find that it’s a complex, convoluted affair. It might not make it right, but I think the least you can do is try understanding someone before you condemn her.

The morning after -pill is indeed a good point, but I'd say it would be unfair to the woman who is pregnant to talk about it to her if the pregnancy was a result of rape. You see, women don't always get away from their rapists in time to take one, and even more often it's likely that even if they do, they are not in the state of mind to think rationally like that and run to the pharmacy. Rape tends to be traumatizing, you know.

While Poland has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in Europe, an abortion after a rape is still legal here.
There was some initiative to make it more restrictive but our catholic bishops protested against it, especially against the idea to punish women for illegal abortions.
You get it? Catholic bishops didn't want more restrictive abortion laws

I wouldn't mention a morning-after pill if a woman was raped. That would be ridiculous.

I'm saying this in reference to normal, consensual sex.

That's surprising. Maybe they thought that women who want abortions will get them, legal or not, and if they're not legal they're far more likely to be dangerous and thus could lead to deaths that could've been prevented. Maybe that's why?

Before 1973, abortions were mostly illegal in the United States.

Many people died and were injured by illegal, "coat-hanger" abortions.

I read their statement, their reasoning was something like "while the baby is the primary victim of an abortion, the woman is often the secondary one and making her a criminal would only add to the cruelty".

That makes sense too. While there are women who don't see abortion as any different than some other medical treatment, there are also those who come to the conclusion that abortion is the best option with heavy hearts.

Abortion is sad because there's a new life growing inside the uterus of a person. And abortion is the cessation of that life.

Yes, a woman has the right to choose what to do with what's growing inside her uterus. But like others are saying, many times the choice of an abortion is "very heavy on the heart."

I feel like it's best when an abortion occurs as soon as humanly possible.

If the "woman's choice" was to either abort or fend for herself with the baby and all the additional problems, then my opinion is - fsck that choice.
More choice and more life is possible but costly - it means more support.

But the "choice" has to be made. And it falls squarely on the woman, with maybe a little input from the man.

The choice may be hers but her environment provides options to choose.