In support of Israel.

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Our biggest issue at the moment has been the corruption and "state capture" that took place under Jacob Zuma and is now being investigated by a commission.

Cyril Ramaphosa has an opportunity to stand up and be a doer rather than the platitudes and good intentions he's been making in his State of the Nation speeches.

I'm surprised that South Africa went that route.

Under Mandela, it was acknowledged that the Boer farms were an essential component. Some of the Boers were real racists, true. Of a particularly virulent type.

But, still, one can't just take away their land like that.

No I don't hate jews I just am opposed to their government bull dozing Palestinian houses in the middle of the night or shooting Palestinians for walking down the wrong street

I disagree with how the israeli government is handling their situation with palestine. I think it could probably exist without having to entirely overtake Palestine with settlements. If you want to assume that means I don't think jews exist than that is up to you, but I don't personally hold any such belief.

Of course there is, Hollywood Guy.

There are many locales in England where the vast majority is "ethnic English." Most locales, I would say. Even in urban areas.

Same with Germany.

Same with virtually every country in Europe.

Most people in the Czech Republic are Czech,

Most people in Hungary are Hungarian.


In the United States, the vast majority of people are born and bred Americans.

It's a total mess with intransigence on both sides. Both Palestinians and Israelis deserve and need a homeland . The Jewish settlements help to create a greater barrier to solving the problem .

What was so bad about the boundaries before the 6 days war ?

It has to do with Jerusalem, mostly, I believe.

I've been doing my anger workbook. I needed it.

Nothing going on in Israel compares to the Rohingya Muslim Crisis. Israel didn't suddenly turn on a group of people living within their boarders in an effort to exterminate them. They simply went to war. When war is declared both sides fight and one wins. The Palestinians did not win. They were forced from their land and someone else living there; the original inhabitants. That's what happens when two groups want the same land. If they behave, they can live in relative peace. If they don't behave, they get attacked back. In my mind, the goal in the restoration of Israel, with the help of the UN, in 1948 was always to restore as much of the original boundaries of Israel as possible. How do people think this land was chosen? Are there people who really believe it was random? It wasn't random.

There are a bunch of people out there who think the idea of Israel just sprang up, out of thin air. And that perhaps Jews sprang up like weeds. I'm sorry that the idea of Israel and the Jews is so new for them. But, these are not new people. They've been around a really long time. They've lost some (holocaust) and they've won some (Israel).

My whole point in this entire thread is that there are certain people and groups of people who don't think the Jews should ever win. Those same people and their supporters will call everyone who disputes their hatred as bigoted against Muslims. When in reality, I'm just sick of certain people getting all the sympathy while others get none. You're either a bigot, or your not. And if you say you aren't then support everyone trying to make a way for themselves on this planet, not just a few.

If the Palestinians think they have what it takes to defeat Israel, then get to it. Otherwise, stop throwing rocks and storming the walls and then publishing pictures of themselves with knots on their heads after an Israeli soldier has finally shot someone, trying to outrage the world.

What does Israel have to offer? Prosperity, amazing technology, exports... etc...
What has Palestine ever had to offer, even when they had the land? Constant blood feuds... and Goliath (Philistines) Their biggest claim to fame is converting Oxygen to Carbon Dioxide.

Israel took a sows ear and turned it into a silk purse, because that's what they do. And I believe it's why they are hated so much... envy, jealousy.