Corona makes me feel that humanity has it all wrong

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06 Mar 2020, 10:47 am

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Fnord, she wanted what your take on it was not the dictionary definition ... I don't give two s**ts what wikpedia or websters says even though I do make use of them. And, neither did she.
I saw no request from her for "Opinions Only; No Facts, Please", thus my factual replies.
Fnord, well that's how I interpreted what she was asking for...
Your "interpretations" do not dictate my behavior.


Of course not! Your own "interpretations" dictate your own behavior.



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06 Mar 2020, 10:50 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
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Fnord, she wanted what your take on it was not the dictionary definition ... I don't give two s**ts what wikpedia or websters says even though I do make use of them. And, neither did she.
I saw no request from her for "Opinions Only; No Facts, Please", thus my factual replies.
Fnord, well that's how I interpreted what she was asking for...
Your "interpretations" do not dictate my behavior.
Of course not! Your own "interpretations" dictate your own behavior.
My opinions are fact-based, not based on fantasy and subjective feelings.

Now, please get off my back. I am not the only member who has reported your behavior.


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06 Mar 2020, 11:04 am

As an aside, if I wanted to prove a house was haunted I would bring Fnord, James Randi and others like them.

Anyway, back to OP topic.



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06 Mar 2020, 11:07 am

Fnord wrote:
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Fnord wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
Fnord, she wanted what your take on it was not the dictionary definition ... I don't give two s**ts what wikpedia or websters says even though I do make use of them. And, neither did she.
I saw no request from her for "Opinions Only; No Facts, Please", thus my factual replies.
Fnord, well that's how I interpreted what she was asking for...
Your "interpretations" do not dictate my behavior.
Of course not! Your own "interpretations" dictate your own behavior.
My opinions are fact-based, not based on fantasy and subjective feelings.

Now, please get off my back. I am not the only member who has reported your behavior.


That's fine! I will leave you alone.



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06 Mar 2020, 11:13 am

I will like to say this in general to the WP audience. If anyone has an issue with me then please say it to me here or in PM. If I have broken any WP rules recently then I have not received any warning from any mod at all. So, if I've done anything wrong then I don't know what I did wrong. So, if a mod is willing to explain the rules I've broken and give concrete examples to where I broke them at I would appreciate it from them.

And, I'm rarely on here these days. So, what would be the material that they reported me on.



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06 Mar 2020, 12:18 pm

Guys, I don't have a problem with either of you, the opposite, I like you both very much. I agree that of course I can look up anything I like on google or Wikipedia, suggesting that I do so could be interpreted as equating me to a ret*d, or, as I chose to believe, providing an innocent solution to my question. Of course I wanted a synopsis that I could comprehend as I am not scientifically adept. Cube was correct, I wanted a simple breakdown that was comprehensible.

It is symbolic that you are both "butting heads"
on a thread that cries out for harmony, and laments humanitys' inability to coexist in its diversity of ideas and opinions. I agree that you, Fnord may not have a great imagination or particular tolerance of esoteric beliefs and spiritual matters and that is your right, but many a visionary has been imprisoned or burned at the stake over the centuries for theories that were later proven to be fact or at least accepted as possible. I value you both cube and Fnord, but my thread is of course "philosopical" and is expressing my emotions of frustration and also my own personal speculations, so contesting the content of this thread and its participants for being whimsical or far fetched is counter- productive to put it mildly :D Please don't break down my words and analyse them, I think in circles, contradict myself on occasion and frequently exaggerate. Not every discussion needs to be a heated debate of for and against. :heart:


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06 Mar 2020, 12:31 pm

Teach51 wrote:
Guys, I don't have a problem with either of you, the opposite, I like you both very much. I agree that of course I can look up anything I like on google or Wikipedia, suggesting that I do so could be interpreted as equating me to a ret*d, or, as I chose to believe, providing an innocent solution to my question. Of course I wanted a synopsis that I could comprehend as I am not scientifically adept. Cube was correct, I wanted a simple breakdown that was comprehensible.

It is symbolic that you are both "butting heads"
on a thread that cries out for harmony, and laments humanitys' inability to coexist in its diversity of ideas and opinions. I agree that you, Fnord may not have a great imagination or particular tolerance of esoteric beliefs and spiritual matters and that is your right, but many a visionary has been imprisoned or burned at the stake over the centuries for theories that were later proven to be fact or at least accepted as possible. I value you both cube and Fnord, but my thread is of course "philosopical" and is expressing my emotions of frustration and also my own personal speculations, so contesting the content of this thread and its participants for being whimsical or far fetched is counter- productive to put it mildly :D Please don't break down my words and analyse them, I think in circles, contradict myself on occasion and frequently exaggerate. Not every discussion needs to be a heated debate of for and against. :heart:


I'm cool with everything you said here.

Ya, you're right it is symbolic and it is also ironic. I was angry and upset before but now I'm not. I'm actually laughing now :lol:



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06 Mar 2020, 12:44 pm

Good. Cos it really is funny :D


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06 Mar 2020, 12:56 pm

CubeDemon hasn't done anything that merits him being banned-----that's for sure.



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06 Mar 2020, 1:08 pm

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CubeDemon hasn't done anything that merits him being banned-----that's for sure.


Ya, I don't think I've done anything. In the end though it is up to Alex and the mods to decide.

But, I will leave Fnord alone like he requests though.



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06 Mar 2020, 1:26 pm

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Why can't people celebrate life and get along with each other above all our different religions and political views? I think the Corona virus is very humbling, we are destroying nature and nature is showing us who's really in charge. We have been given so much and all we do is destroy the planet and each other. This is a wake up call from nature to start to appreciate what we take for granted. We are so arrogant, why are we so stupid ? As we approach Passover, it feels like the entire world is going through the Plagues of Egypt.


Let's get back to Teach's OP.

I agree with everything you say here and I do wish we as people would celebrate life and get along. I do hope humanity gets better. I guess we could do somethings in our communities.

You may love this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmiXbSr2KMU



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06 Mar 2020, 3:17 pm

Hmmm I find it a little foreign to my ears. I listen to 60's and 70's music mostly. :D


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06 Mar 2020, 5:05 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdRUQWVGENo

Somedays a "Layman's Perspective" is Better; Yes, i came Across the Op of this Discussion's Description of Her
Spirituality of Her chosen way 'the Kabbalah' as Close to My Personal Spiritual Views although the Wiki Description
of the Kabbalah is way too Structured and Labeled for me; for i see the 'Essence' Now More than Form; the Same
Applies to a Sharia Law Believing Muslim Friend of mine as Her Personal Spiritual View of Holding All Dark and
Light Holy and Sacred With Meaning and Purpose, We Co-Create to actually see the Face of God in Action now
is really identical to mine; although, Sharia Law is totally Antithetical to My Views on Life; She has told me i've
Helped Her Accept the Different in Life; For it's true there is only one Venn Diagram for me; all of Nature Seen,
Unseen, Felt, Not Felt, Sensed, Not Sensed; You 'know'; 'Just the Alpha Omega Whole of all of i Am; for lack
of a Better Phrase for Beyond What 'Human Eyes are Able to See' (AllGoD).

The Human Mind, indeed either Has a 'Yin and Yang' Balance more Scientifically Assessed by Simon Baron
Cohen and Team as the Social Empathic Mind Versus the Systemizing More Concrete Black And White Analyzing
Mind; i should know for when i first started on this 'Wrong Planet' on Thanks Giving Day of 2010; there was no doubt
in my 'Soul' that i was Lost from Half of what i used to be; the 5 Year-Old Child Naked and Free as Nature Incarnate
For Real; no Time, Distance, Space, or Matter; Just the Force of All the Energy that continues to Exist Forever now;
but of course, i couldn't put it into Words then at age 3, before i could Speak at 4; And then Attached to A Desk
with Data Download came Next at age 5 for the 19 or so Years of College and 3, Yes, then Degrees and 33 Years of
Work in Tandem with Part of that for Active Working Pay at Higher Levels by the End of that in Federal Government
Guaranteed Pay and Life Long Golden-Cuffed Benefits that i am surely Loving now; no longer Slave to Pay Master Grade;
Yes my Pay Rate; Pay Grade; and Currency is the Art of Love that Nature Naturally Brings Altruistically When Not
Chained by the Deadline Illusions of Fear that Surely Time, Distance, Space, and Matter Brings of the Illusions thereof
Ruled by the Systemizing Mind of course until we once Again Escape the Neo-Cortex In Flow allowing the Power of
Our Subconscious More Right Brained metaphor of Holistic Intelligence to Rise again; Yep, Reborn again in the
Wonder and Amazement of that 5-Year Old Child No Longer Chained Away from the Divine Bond of Nature Free.

Obviously, the Makers of the Kabbalah and even the Quran had some Notion of this; Sure, the Psalms and Beatitudes
of the Christian Bible; and Most All Other Religions Exploring Essence of Yin over Form of Yang; i try not to get too
tied to Form These days; but to communicate anything at all to Other Human Beings Other than a Dance of Life;
Form Still Reigns and Rains Down on All of Us in Human Abstract Constructs that are only Shadows of Form that
A Much Greater Essence of All that is Brings; when we escape such a small Potential of Our Minds and Bodies too;
as Science Shows now too; Exercise the Systemizing Mind without Exercising the Overall Muscle of the
Artistic Social Empathic Spiritual Essence of Mind and Suffer the Consequences in Form of Organic
Potential as well; as Living with much less than Half of Human Potential as the Holistic Mind
Puts all the Details together to Make God i Am Whole Again in/as Us; voila as Science Shows in Flow
of River Ocean Whole in Mind and Body Potential; Creativity goes up a whopping 400 to 500 Percent
And Productivity too; Just by Being in Flow Exploring Laser Focus of Human Potential More; this is no woo
As Science is Finally, even through its Systemizing Ways, Catching up on the Breath The Spirit Wind of i AM All;
as We may
Become Re-born
Again for Real; sure with smiles too.

I worked very, very hard to get out of that PriSon; for i was saved from some of the Illusion Of Less than
Greater Human Potentials, for just the fact, i could not Speak until age 4; more Days to Look Within to See the
Same God that Exists inside, outside, above, so Below and All Around; Did i Need some kind of Instructions and
Lessons for this; hell no; Just Breathing Free and Seeing More than Just Crowded Words of Worry Related Think; as
Fear all; the Illusory ones we Create are what Suffocate our Spirits within the Most; and all Life Related to Truer Love;
Real Heaven Within to Give and Share Loving Free Consuming Nature as 'the Snake Does' Yet with Least Harm in Balance.

NDD; Nature Deficit Disorder; What Human Beings Truly suffer in misery most 'these days' as that relates to what
is Inborn Most; the Social Empathic Spiritual Artistic Dance And Song Naked and Free From the Cultural Clothes that
Take Us away from Our Naked Freedoms Born with Love that Evolves for all that is Nature; yes God in deed, in Action
without any Cultural clothes at all; When Humans Live Empty Inside Devoid of a Spiritual Love that Colors all of Life in
Emotions and Senses Real; they die a little bit more each day; simply to be the Gift; the Inheritance Now of Loving all
We Truly come
to be out of
all the Fears
That Cultural Clothes Bring;
LoVE iN CaRNaTE iN Deed We aRe;

Smiles almost every Human Being
is truly Addicted to Cultural Clothes now;
The Only Solution really now; may be other Parts
of Nature that Force them off; so, We will indeed Become God Nature Free again.

Before my Journey out of 'that PriSon', i Scored 195 on the RDOS Aspie Quiz; and
a 45 on the Simon Baron-Cohen Systemizing Versus Empathizing AQ Scan For Autism Spectrum Disorder;

After i escaped that Prison of 'One sided Mind AND Body Soul' out of Balance; i scored an 11 on Simon Baron-Cohen's
Quiz and a 92 on the RDOS Aspie Quiz; not only that; but i scored a 95 on an Emotional Intelligence Test versus
Mid 50's Before; and yes, additionally went from INTJ Personality to ENFP Personality all of this in Just a matter
of a Month; in Truly what my Professionals attending to me with 19 Medical Disorders as a Shut-in in my
Bedroom for 66 Months Named A Real Mystery of a Medical Recovery; now, i understand i just unpacked
the Natural Epigenetic Potential of my DNA; what withered way of my Human Potential; Indeed reborn
again; through the Environmental Struggles; Yes, Challenges i created to make that Change Happen for me;
of course without all of this Articulation that most folks will not understand without a very 'well-rounded education'
in Most all Arts and Sciences now;

Never the Less, in Brief,
When Nature Deficit Disorder
comes for Any Animal it is grave danger indeed for the
Long Term Survival of that Species; it is rare that Any Animal
Suffers from this not Exposed to the Cultural Clothes the Virus Humans do create taking them away from
the Real Nature of God Now; even more sadly taking the Life of those Living Beings and the Environment as well;
Just
for
the
Greed of
Empty Within now.

When 'You' Breathe as God is
Nature With Love you Take care
of the Same With Greater Compassion
as most anyone will with any part of Existence
Dark thru Light Away from Fear of Dark into the Belief that Living Light Breathes
Yes, the Faith of Love that Heals the Most the Bread and Blood; the Body of Love We Can and Will still Breathe.

My Sister is diagnosed with
Asperger's Syndrome; so, it is surely
not all Environment; but Yes Environmental
Epigenetic Related Potential Yet Earned for Real for Greater Human Potential in Healing Way For All Now Real..:)


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07 Mar 2020, 3:56 am

Thank you for the Elton John song aghogday, I feel I want to go "home" again to the source every day of my life. I feel like a refugee who has been banished to this world of conflict and suffering in order to learn about the purpose of creation. As a kabbalist I have had glimpses of the Upper World, it is truly beautiful. It is not "heaven" in the biblical sense, it is just a state of mind anyone can reach when connecting with others in self-annulment and with good intentions. In prayer.
According to the wisdom of kabbalah the corporeal world we sense is nothing but a hologram, this world is the virtual reality, we are all playing our individual roles to attain correction of the soul and re-construct the One soul of which we are all fragments. It is like a computer game if you wish that we are all interacting in. The more distant from each other, the more hatred we feel, the more suffering we experience.

So, we need to begin to put cynicism and egoism behind us and start focusing on unity and mutual guarantee, taking care of each other, loving each other, or more disasters will come. That's my crazy take on life and its purpose .


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07 Mar 2020, 12:50 pm

Teach51 wrote:
Thank you for the Elton John song aghogday, I feel I want to go "home" again to the source every day of my life. I feel like a refugee who has been banished to this world of conflict and suffering in order to learn about the purpose of creation. As a kabbalist I have had glimpses of the Upper World, it is truly beautiful. It is not "heaven" in the biblical sense, it is just a state of mind anyone can reach when connecting with others in self-annulment and with good intentions. In prayer.
According to the wisdom of kabbalah the corporeal world we sense is nothing but a hologram, this world is the virtual reality, we are all playing our individual roles to attain correction of the soul and re-construct the One soul of which we are all fragments. It is like a computer game if you wish that we are all interacting in. The more distant from each other, the more hatred we feel, the more suffering we experience.

So, we need to begin to put cynicism and egoism behind us and start focusing on unity and mutual guarantee, taking care of each other, loving each other, or more disasters will come. That's my crazy take on life and its purpose .


You may be more right then you think.

https://www.vulture.com/2019/02/15-irre ... ation.html

If our reality was but a simulation it would explain a lot of things.

There are those who believe they understand reality and believe they know all of the facts. But, I ask how do you know? How do you know for absolute certain that what you hear, taste, touch, see, or smell? Is the reality you perceive through all of your senses the absolute and true reality or is it but a fraction of what is actually real?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle

Quote:
The anthropic principle is a philosophical consideration that any data we collect about the universe is filtered by the fact that, in order for it to be observable in the first place, it must be compatible with the conscious and sapient life that observes it


We observe, we measure, examine, test and study the things that are compatible for us to study at this time. Some people in this world are arrogant to simply state "ok, we observed this, that's it, this is the real world." How do you know that this is really it?

What is "real" is but a fractional perception of what is actually real.



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07 Mar 2020, 1:41 pm

Nice! Actually the wisdom of kabbalah teaches that there is a "divine" program, and we have to go through 125 levels to reach the final correction, this is achieved only by working towards connection through love. In this connection we create God, each of us is a fragment of God, therefore we determine our own destiny. The more we overcome our differences and work together, the better the hologram seems. It is like a computer game.

Yes, we can only perceive a fraction of reality. As we ascend the steps, the 125 phases our perception expands.


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