Secret Democratic Party Memo on Black Lives Matter (BLM)

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There are a lot of people dedicated to making the world a better place, SJW's are a small percentage of them. SJW's are subset of Social Justice Activists who are heavily defined by their behaviors legal and illegal. They try and change the world through "canceling" people thought to be in the way of progress. They also are heavily into manipulating language to advance their agenda by means such as attempting to ban words deemed racist or other "ists, expanding or changing the definition of words(privilege is a prime example) is a prime example and propagating new words such as "microaggression". Their world view is loosely centered around intersectionality and presentism.

I know what they are and I'm tired of hearing SIW snowflakes whine about them.

You're entitled to be hostile and dismissive towards them and I'm entitled to be hostile and dismissive towards those who are hostile and dismissive towards them.

Ane right here we have a perfect example of the problem:
Instead of both sides being willing to sit down and have a civilised discussion so as to undertand the other, and find common ground (give and take), many on both side prefer to dismiss the "opposition" and ignore (or misrepresent) what they may be trying to say.

LIFE WITHOUT POLICE - CHAOS



The head of Seattle's police union lamented the lack of "leadership" in the city Saturday after reports emerged that an early morning shooting in the so-called 'CHOP' left one person dead and another in critical condition.

According to The Seattle Times, police homicide and assault detectives are investigating the shooting, citing a post on the Seattle Police Department's blotter.

"On June 20th, at approximately 2:30 AM, East Precinct officers responded to a report of shots fired in Cal Anderson Park," a statement on the blotter said.

"This is inside the area referred to as the Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP). Officers attempted to locate a shooting victim but were met by a violent crowd that prevented officers safe access to the victims. Officers were later informed that the victims, both males, had been transported to Harborview Medical Center by CHOP medics.

"Officers responded to Harborview and were informed that one of the victims, a 19-year-old male, had died from injuries. The other victim, also a male, unknown age, remains in the hospital with life-threatening injuries."

Seattle Police Officers Guild President Michael Solan remarked that it is "no longer the summer of love" like Democratic Mayor Jenny Durkan claimed, but the "summer of chaos."

SOURCE: Seattle police union chief calls for 'leadership' after fatal shooting in CHOP zone

As I noted in this thread on 16 june, CHOP has a Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde personality. There is a stark contrast between how protesters staying at Seattle's "Capitol Hill Organized Protest" zone behave during the day and during the night. During the day, he said, it could be considered peaceful if one ignored boarded-up businesses or graffiti calling for the murder of police. But when the sun goes down, the "criminal elements come out."

Yup

How much compromise do you owe those who needlessly and wilfully antagonize you? Would you negotiate with your bullies for them to only bully you in a limited set of ways on even numbered days, or would you pursue a favourable resolution that suits your own interests and eliminates the problem entirely?

Society doesn't owe white supremacists compromise.

MORE CHAOS IN CHOP

Less than 48 hours after a 19-year-old was fatally shot in the protest area near Seattle’s downtown known as CHOP, another shooting reportedly broke out on Sunday night that resulted in an individual being hospitalized in serious condition.

The Seattle Fire Department arrived at the scene at 10:46 p.m. and went to a staging area near the zone's perimeter, fire department spokesperson David Cuerpo told the Seattle Times.

The fire department was soon notified that the injured person has already been taken away. Both victims in Saturday's shooting -- whose identities hadn't yet been released -- were also transported to the same hospital via private car. The person arrived in a private vehicle and was in serious condition, Harborview Medical Center spokesperson Susan Gregg said in a statement.

Source: Another shooting reported at Seattle’s CHOP, 1 in serious condition

When I went to school many years ago I was singled out and called a lot of names such as "stupid, an idiot, worthless". Of course I was none of those. That was my experience with bullying.

So when you use the word "white supremacists" and apply it to anyone who disagrees with your prospect, the feels very much like bullying.

Most of the people you are tagging with the label "white supremacists" are NOT "white supremacists".

I would sort of concur with Jimmy,I would never compromise with white supremacists ever!
You,that is" Funeral" are labeling people a racist who may not be."White supremacist" is not a term to be taken lightly and without sober consideration.

Lots of racists will insist they're not, it's not my concern whether or not I've hurt their feelings. If someone consistently advocates for putting the interests of whites ahead of those of others they'll likely be called a white supremacist by me because that's literally what they are. If someone is consistently hostile towards social justice movements related to black or indigenous concerns I will refer to that person as a racist because that's what they are.

Flapping your arms and trying to gaslight me when I call a spade a spade isn't going to alter whether or not I call a spade a spade and you'll have to deal with that.

Crime has surged inside and outside the CHAZ/CHOP zone. No laws or rules applied there except for one: “No cops allowed.”

On Saturday morning, a shooting erupted that left at least one person dead and another injured near a border checkpoint. Police were reportedly met with resistance when they tried to get to the victims, who apparently were then taken in private cars to the hospital. Cops made it into the zone to gather shell casings and evidence, some reports said, as police in riot gear stood at the border.

On Thursday, police arrested Robert James after he left the CHAZ. He is accused of sexually assaulting a deaf woman who was lured inside a tent. The same day, former city council candidate Isaiah Willoughby was arrested on suspicion of starting the arson attack on the East Precinct on June 12.

Seattle will move to end the police-free zone known as the "Capitol Hill Organized Protest," or "CHOP," after two recent shootings, one of which was deadly, Mayor Jenny Durkan announced Monday.

The mayor said the violence was distracting from changes sought by thousands of peaceful protesters seeking to address racial inequity and police brutality. Activists set up "CHOP" about two weeks ago, barricading off the area after police evacuated a precinct building there.

Source: Seattle will move to dismantle 'CHOP' zone after shootings, mayor says

There are also the racists who declare people of certain races as being less deserving of concern\support\resources than those of others, or defend this type of inequitable treatment of people of any race.

It seems that you are getting confused with the difference between a racist, expecting different actions\support\concern for people of one (or more) race(s) over others, and a person who believes in equal treatment for all people regardless of race, but instead based on a persons individual needs.

Someone trying to defend "support" for people based on their race rather than their individual need would therefore fit within the "racist" classification.

CHOP GOT THE CHOPPING BLOCK

Residents who live near Seattle’s "police-free" zone called CHOP –­ “Capitol Hill Organized Protest" – expressed relief after Mayor Jenny Durkan announced Monday that city officials are working to end the protest, following two shootings over the weekend, one of them deadly.

But despite the mayor’s decision to act, some residents who live by the area were critical of the city's leadership for taking so long to act.

“It was doomed to happen from Day One,” Matthew Ploszaj, who lives in the vicinity, told KOMO News. “No one wanted to say it, but I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner. It should have ended when the Car Tender got broken and the mob went down and broke his fence. It did not have to come to this.”

[Capitol Hill auto shop, Car Tender, says it was broken into overnight by protesters in the “CHOP” or “CHAZ” area Sunday night. A suspect tried to start a fire and stole cash, as well as car keys. The business owner, John McDermott, says he and his son managed to detain the suspect – but despite more than a dozen 911 calls, police and fire never showed up.]

Durkan said the violence was distracting from changes sought by thousands of peaceful protesters opposing racial inequity and police brutality. She said at a news conference that the city is working with the community to bring CHOP to an end and that police soon would move back into a precinct building in the area they had largely abandoned.

The mayor did not give an immediate timeline for clearing out the occupation but said “additional steps” would be examined if people don’t leave voluntarily. With scores of people camping in a park in the protest zone, Durkan said peaceful demonstrations could continue, but nighttime disorder had to stop.

“The cumulative impacts of the gatherings and protests and the nighttime atmosphere and violence has led to increasingly difficult circumstances for our businesses and residents,” Durkan said. “The impacts have increased and the safety has decreased.”

City leaders have faced mounting criticism over the protest zone amid reports of violence inside the area. Police had not been able to go inside the zone.

The dismantling of the CHOP will follow the death of a 19-year-old man in a Saturday shooting in which another person was injured. On Sunday, a 17-year-old was shot in the arm on the edge of the area.

Demonstrators inside CHOP have been mostly peaceful –­ handing out free food and playing music –­ but a more dangerous atmosphere has become evident at night.

"There should be no place in Seattle that the Seattle Fire Department and the Seattle Police Department can't go," Durkan said.

On Monday, some CHOP members called for changes to the zone over the violence. In an open letter addressed to organizers, a group of 25 activists and volunteers asked leaders to set up a safe use area on the outskirts of the zone, create different signage encouraging intoxicated persons to stay away and implement a curfew to prevent destructive behavior at night.

"We would like to acknowledge that no organizations, protests, or revolutions are perfect," the group wrote. "We must all be willing to collectively learn and react quickly to mistakes made within our movement. We do not want to see what was started with the intention of lifting the BLM message destroyed before us all."

Seattle Police Chief Carmen Best reportedly said, “This is not about politics, and I’m not a politician. This is a debate about life or death. So we need a plan… I cannot stand by, not another second and watch another black man, or anyone really, die in our streets while people aggressively thwart the efforts of police and other first responders from rescuing them.”

Source: Residents near Seattle’s CHOP ask what took city so long to move to break up protest

Speaking against or attempting to reduce institutional racism isn't giving anyone special treatment, nor is expecting police to treat the people they encounter in a respectful manner regardless of their racial background.

Why should only some communities receive police that don't behave like an occupying force? Why should only some communities receive that sort of special treatment while others are left with a violent occupying force that feels responding slowly to all calls is an appropriate response for the community opposing police brutality?

And yet somehow, to the mentally backwards it's those demanding equality who are the racists, not those who feel black communities deserve to be policed with an occupying force mentality.

The burden,however, is to demonstrate that there is, in fact, institutional racism...You can't, for example, compare how the police from one city\state PD treat people in their area, compared with another group in a different city\state, as they are different institutions - Same "industry", maybe, but not the same institution.

Similarly, the respect with which Police interact with members of the public also needs to be shown TO them by those they interact with. If they approach someone who believes in following the law (where possibly), that person is likely to be generally welcoming in their demeanour (maybe upset if having been caught doing something wrong), however if the person they approach has been brought up to believe "police are bad", or to not follow the law (or who sees that type of action being "gloryfied", then their demeanour will be hostile, which is reflected in how they are likely to be treated.



As I understand it, in the USA, the police are generally from the community\city, and so would be aware of how they are likely to be treated (based on experience) by people inside the community, and so their approach would be similar...Expecting "the other side" to change their behaviour when "your side" won't just entrenches this. Lead by example, or don't complain about being treated as you treat others. The "special treatment" of which you are envious is likely the result of the years of mutual respect, not the loathing for the police which some communities display.



Again, do the "black communities" do anything to welcome the police, treat them as equals, or show them any respect, or do they instead treat them is an inferior manner to that which they treat members of their own community? If someone treats another as "inferior", or are hostile towards them, why should they expect any other type of responce. This isn't a colour related issue, it's a behavioural\environmental one.

As an example: If people in these "occupied" areas (your claim) saw police walking past, would they say "hello", make some snide remark/insult, or stop talking while they walked nearby? Then consider how people in areas with "special treatment" (again, your words) would respond? Further, how would people in the "occupied" areas respond to someone who simply said "hello" to the police?