Anti-maskers are like anti-vaxxers

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Which is better, though: People wearing no masks, or those same people instead wearing these ones:


Or, worst case: Forcing the unwilling to wear masks, meaning (should there be a shortage) that those who need masks may have no alternative than to use the above masks as no others are available?

That's the point. There is no consensus about risk mitigation on wearing a mask. In Australia for 6 out of our 7 states still recommend not wearing a mask unless you are in a high risk environment like a crowded public transport or work in a hospital.

Consensus isn’t required to see that places where mask wearing rate is high (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan etc) transmission rate is low.. and places where people are stupid and have even stupider leadership (USA, Brazil etc) transmission rates - and in turn deaths, are high.

Pretty simple.

Karens have found a way to wear masks.

https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/transp ... ronavirus/

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus ... story.html


I call it a Karen Mask.

I'll be wearing a mask from tomorrow (I live in the one state where its just been made mandatory) but it won't change my social distancing as I do not trust the masks effectiveness.

I had some fool come right up my arse in the shopping centre today just because he had a mask.

This will please the "fashion conscious" Karens

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We are told to wear a mask AND keep 6’ distance. When nearly everyone does this, the spread is minimal.

A coworker phoned me up the other day and I asked him what protocols are like on his work site - if people are abiding by rules. He said everyone has to wear a mask, people Try to work only one to a room But that’s not happening.. it’s construction and people are still working kinda like normal with sometimes 2 or 3 different trades in one room. (F that, I would go find somewhere else to work as there’s usually a lot more than one room worth of work to do.) Also, for two person tasks at least one of the two has to be wearing a Respirator, not just a cloth mask.

We haven't got to that stage yet. A lot of Melbournians are planning to wear bandanas and scarves. There are also going to be anti-maskers who will protest their civil rights. The police are already getting their ticketbooks ready.

I recall reading that bandanas and scarves are better than nothing, but bandanas are one of the worst performing face coverings because they’re loose and the bottoms are open so even breathing more droplets spread around but especially if you cough or sneeze, whereas with masks the ear loops keep the fabric more taught over your nose and mouth so almost any style mask or fabric type will trap more airborne particles you exhale. Makes sense to me.

I have a couple masks and several more on order - guaranteed some of them perform better than others. Based on fabric/shape/fit/# of layers/filter material etc - basic physics. There’s one in particular that I think will out perform the others at keeping my droplets to myself As Well As better filter the air I breathe in. But all of them will help a lot more than not wearing one, that’s for sure.

I have standard facemasks for emergency and some washable fabric facemasks in the mail. Will be like putting on socks for my face.

The several different ones I have on order are a variety of fun prints. I figure if I have to wear them they may as well be interesting. Also, they might just promote others to wear ‘em more - maybe, so that’s a plus.

Not enough people wearing them here. Not even close. Our case numbers keep rising daily. The doc in charge doesn’t want to mandate masks but a lot of us are getting annoyed that she hasn’t because people aren’t wearing them and coronavirus cases keep rising. Stupid. Wish she’d just make it law.

Masks don't prevent you from getting the virus, they help stop you from spreading the virus to others.

As someone who grew up with chronic bronchitis, lived through pneumonia, and was tear gassed at basic training, drowning in your own lungs isn't fun. Wear your mask and stop complaining.

I learned about this in basic army training watching youtuber Michelle Khare coughing her lungs out spending a day with the armed forces training academy. No wonder asthmatics can't enlist.

Your "point" doesnt make any sense. Those states are not saying that "wearing a mask is per se harmful". They do that because they have a mask shortage, and need to dole out the limited supply to healthcare workers. And they may also be the outback regions of the country that are more sparsely populated than even the American West. So folks dont even encounter many folks anyway unless in an exceptional "high risk environment".

Actually the language is taken from government websites NP
Australian health experts have not been recommending healthy people wear face masks and have warned wearing them incorrectly can put us at risk during the pandemic.