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11 Oct 2020, 11:36 pm

to paraphrase Jim Carville, "the right wing hates government for the same reason a bank robber hates the police."



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12 Oct 2020, 1:29 am

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If you knew, why did you try to deceive us?

Maybe we can learn from your wisdom?


Given what you have been posting, you are probably right...



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12 Oct 2020, 3:14 am

auntblabby wrote:
to paraphrase Jim Carville, "the right wing hates government for the same reason a bank robber hates the police."


substitute criminal syndicate for "bank robber" and it sounds about right (no pun intended)



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12 Oct 2020, 3:24 am

cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
to paraphrase Jim Carville, "the right wing hates government for the same reason a bank robber hates the police."


substitute criminal syndicate for "bank robber" and it sounds about right (no pun intended)

but the pun is welcome just the same 8)



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16 Oct 2020, 10:46 am

Fnord wrote:
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Fascist = Anything the Left doesn't like.
Wrong again.  Fascism is a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

This is everything that MAGA stands for; nothing more, and nothing less.


While there have been things that have been a bit worrisome (Russian interference, nationalizing 5G, and repeal of section 230), there are other things like states rights, lower taxes (as an examples Hitler banned small businesses under 500k I believe), him being thwarted by the court, as well as the nation not being united in one voice. While it could be argued he is authoritarian, not all authoritarians are fascists, like Salazar of Portugal or Pinochet of Chile.



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16 Oct 2020, 9:09 pm

zacb wrote:
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Fascist = Anything the Left doesn't like.
Wrong again.  Fascism is a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

This is everything that MAGA stands for; nothing more, and nothing less.


While there have been things that have been a bit worrisome (Russian interference, nationalizing 5G, and repeal of section 230), there are other things like states rights, lower taxes (as an examples Hitler banned small businesses under 500k I believe), him being thwarted by the court, as well as the nation not being united in one voice. While it could be argued he is authoritarian, not all authoritarians are fascists, like Salazar of Portugal or Pinochet of Chile.

let me get this straight, are you saying that we SHOULD be united in one voice?



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16 Oct 2020, 9:27 pm

The supporters of any incumbent leader will always say the opposition should get behind their beloved leader otherwise they are being divisive. it's an old trick.



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16 Oct 2020, 9:29 pm

hypocrites they are.



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16 Oct 2020, 9:30 pm

They believe in their own words



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16 Oct 2020, 9:31 pm

or at least they've figured out a default way to deal with cognitive dissonance.



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16 Oct 2020, 9:58 pm

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or at least they've figured out a default way to deal with cognitive dissonance.


Yes indeed....NTs are the masters of compartmentalising dissonant thoughts. But things have a way of leaking out eventually.,



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16 Oct 2020, 10:01 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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or at least they've figured out a default way to deal with cognitive dissonance.


Yes indeed....NTs are the masters of compartmentalising dissonant thoughts. But things have a way of leaking out eventually.,

well as long as they don't leak onto me... ;)



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16 Oct 2020, 10:11 pm

auntblabby wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
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or at least they've figured out a default way to deal with cognitive dissonance.


Yes indeed....NTs are the masters of compartmentalising dissonant thoughts. But things have a way of leaking out eventually.,

well as long as they don't leak onto me... ;)


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17 Oct 2020, 6:56 am

auntblabby wrote:
zacb wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
Fascist = Anything the Left doesn't like.
Wrong again.  Fascism is a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

This is everything that MAGA stands for; nothing more, and nothing less.


While there have been things that have been a bit worrisome (Russian interference, nationalizing 5G, and repeal of section 230), there are other things like states rights, lower taxes (as an examples Hitler banned small businesses under 500k I believe), him being thwarted by the court, as well as the nation not being united in one voice. While it could be argued he is authoritarian, not all authoritarians are fascists, like Salazar of Portugal or Pinochet of Chile.

let me get this straight, are you saying that we SHOULD be united in one voice?

I’m pretty sure what Zac is saying is that under fascism, dissent would be crushed to a much greater extent than we presently see.



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17 Oct 2020, 7:10 am

ok, i grok.



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17 Oct 2020, 1:11 pm

cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
or at least they've figured out a default way to deal with cognitive dissonance.


Yes indeed....NTs are the masters of compartmentalising dissonant thoughts. But things have a way of leaking out eventually.,


Autistic Trump supporters seem no better than NT Trump supporters in this regard. :?


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