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What do you think?
Yes, Roe v. Wade is doomed! 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
It is possible, and will likely happen soon. 33%  33%  [ 4 ]
Yes, but in the far future. 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
Probably not, but there is a chance it could. 33%  33%  [ 4 ]
Barret won't overrule Roe (Stare decisis) 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
No it won't be. 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 12

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20 Dec 2020, 5:49 pm

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That is too say, I do consider that a good thing. Murder is murder. Abortion has no place in society.


Once safe and legal access is eliminated people will understand how important it is and the short-term anti-choice victory will ultimately result in a long-term resounding rejection of their misogynistic worldview. Sometimes it takes a ban for people to understand just how important something truly is.

People in need who can afford to will continue to travel to have the procedure done. Those who can't will be motivated by how unfair it is that only wealthy women can still access a vital service and rage against those who stole their rights will motivate them to solve the problem.

I'm sure Ireland believed they would never legalize abortion either and yet sanity eventually prevailed there too.


LOL anti-choice!

Being a pro-lifer I always urged fellow pro-lifers to refer to pro-choicers as pro-murder in reprisal.

That is because that is what it is.

I for one, have a 1g joint and 100 ml of Finnish vodka put aside for the great day when the barbarous decision known as Roe v. Wade will finally draw its last breath. There would be no shame if Barrett did indeed overrule Roe v. Wade. It would be akin to the allies liberating the Nazi death camps in early 1945 and uncovering the magnitude of the horror within.

Being Canadian (born in Poland) I find it difficult to stomach the fact that my tax payer money is used to fund a national kristalnacht. There is ironically, no choice in that matter.


I'm quite grateful that the issue is unlikely to be revisited here even if our southern neighbours can't seem to embrace the idea that the owner of the body carrying is the only one who has the inherent right to decide if she wishes to continue carrying. No amount of re-framing the issue can distract from that simple truth.


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20 Dec 2020, 7:39 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
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That is too say, I do consider that a good thing. Murder is murder. Abortion has no place in society.


Once safe and legal access is eliminated people will understand how important it is and the short-term anti-choice victory will ultimately result in a long-term resounding rejection of their misogynistic worldview. Sometimes it takes a ban for people to understand just how important something truly is.

People in need who can afford to will continue to travel to have the procedure done. Those who can't will be motivated by how unfair it is that only wealthy women can still access a vital service and rage against those who stole their rights will motivate them to solve the problem.

I'm sure Ireland believed they would never legalize abortion either and yet sanity eventually prevailed there too.


LOL anti-choice!

Being a pro-lifer I always urged fellow pro-lifers to refer to pro-choicers as pro-murder in reprisal.

That is because that is what it is.

I for one, have a 1g joint and 100 ml of Finnish vodka put aside for the great day when the barbarous decision known as Roe v. Wade will finally draw its last breath. There would be no shame if Barrett did indeed overrule Roe v. Wade. It would be akin to the allies liberating the Nazi death camps in early 1945 and uncovering the magnitude of the horror within.

Being Canadian (born in Poland) I find it difficult to stomach the fact that my tax payer money is used to fund a national kristalnacht. There is ironically, no choice in that matter.


I'm quite grateful that the issue is unlikely to be revisited here even if our southern neighbours can't seem to embrace the idea that the owner of the body carrying is the only one who has the inherent right to decide if she wishes to continue carrying. No amount of re-framing the issue can distract from that simple truth.


Oh Funeralxempire, believe me, I mustered all I could in order to appreciate that famous pro-choice indicia.

For example, I forced myself to listen to guitar and bass more in order to appreciate its sound in comparison to keys and synthesizers which I play.

But something pulled me away, and I couldn't wrap my head on how this de facto murder machination is in full swing, especially where I live, which is Canada. Abortion is also sexist. Men, for instance, are forced onto child support, yet if only their gender differed they could use abortion as a vehicle to avoid any payment preeminently.

Again, no choice.


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20 Dec 2020, 7:45 pm

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Abortion is also sexist. Men, for instance, are forced onto child support, yet if only their gender differed they could use abortion as a vehicle to avoid any payment preeminently.

Again, no choice.


Why should you have 'choice' over someone else's flesh? Men are just as entitled to terminate their pregnancies as women, of course, since men don't find themselves dealing with this issue they don't actually get to express that choice even if they're hypothetically entitled to it.


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20 Dec 2020, 7:50 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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Abortion is also sexist. Men, for instance, are forced onto child support, yet if only their gender differed they could use abortion as a vehicle to avoid any payment preeminently.

Again, no choice.


Why should you have 'choice' over someone else's flesh? Men are just as entitled to terminate their pregnancies as women, of course, since men don't find themselves dealing with this issue they don't actually get to express that choice even if they're hypothetically entitled to it.


Logical fallacy.

At this point, a man's gateway to fatherhood is literally shepherded by the ultimate decision that the woman makes about her pregnancy.

Think about it.

The next nine months on the ultimate outcome of whether the father would be bounded by child support payments would literally be in the hands of the women. It isn't fair in the slightest.


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20 Dec 2020, 7:55 pm

Deltaville wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
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Abortion is also sexist. Men, for instance, are forced onto child support, yet if only their gender differed they could use abortion as a vehicle to avoid any payment preeminently.

Again, no choice.


Why should you have 'choice' over someone else's flesh? Men are just as entitled to terminate their pregnancies as women, of course, since men don't find themselves dealing with this issue they don't actually get to express that choice even if they're hypothetically entitled to it.


Logical fallacy.

At this point, a man's gateway to fatherhood is literally shepherded by the ultimate decision that the woman makes about her pregnancy.

Think about it.

The next nine months on the ultimate outcome of whether the father would be bounded by child support payments would literally be in the hands of the women. It isn't fair in the slightest.


You don't need to nut inside without wearing a condom. That's when it's your choice. Once you're no longer bearing the physical costs your role changes and bitching about nature won't alter that.


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20 Dec 2020, 8:00 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
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Abortion is also sexist. Men, for instance, are forced onto child support, yet if only their gender differed they could use abortion as a vehicle to avoid any payment preeminently.

Again, no choice.


Why should you have 'choice' over someone else's flesh? Men are just as entitled to terminate their pregnancies as women, of course, since men don't find themselves dealing with this issue they don't actually get to express that choice even if they're hypothetically entitled to it.


Logical fallacy.

At this point, a man's gateway to fatherhood is literally shepherded by the ultimate decision that the woman makes about her pregnancy.

Think about it.

The next nine months on the ultimate outcome of whether the father would be bounded by child support payments would literally be in the hands of the women. It isn't fair in the slightest.


You don't need to nut inside without wearing a condom. That's when it's your choice. Once you're no longer bearing the physical costs your role changes and bitching about nature won't alter that.


The issue and key point funeralxempire, is that there is inequality between abortion rights and child support payments.

Abortion rights, especially in a laissez-fair setting as in Canada where there are NO abortion restrictions demonstrate precisely every reason why I can't agree with you.

One more thing.

What about the greater abortion rates of female fetuses (whose gender is confirmed by ultrasound?).

Sexism right there! If there is indeed intentions behind the 'choosing woman' of a male preference as a child it is really physical violence towards the female gender. And vice versa.

Something reminiscent of 'hate crime' logic, literally materializes at the point.


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20 Dec 2020, 8:07 pm

Further to my post above, how far are you going to take this 'my body',' my body,' my body'! !! !! logic?

As far as I know if you are an involuntary psych ward patient on suicide watch, you are visited every ten minutes by the patrol to prevent you from hanging yourself. Surely by depriving you of the ability commit suicide they are trampling on your right to your own body, or as the Supreme Court of Canada calls it: "security of person."


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20 Dec 2020, 8:35 pm

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