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13 Dec 2021, 4:36 pm

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I think most millennials could be considered entitled because they could be millionaires if they would invest a lot of their hard earned dollars in the stock market but they dont they do bitcon and NFTs instead or put all their money in the bank.I also think they are entitled for expecting their student loans to be forgiven.I think they are entitled if they are not willing to work 100 hours a week for 40 years in the oil and gas industry are not ever willing to consider living in Midland-Odessa, Texas because Midland-Odessa and Texas is one of the last places where the American Dream is alive and well.The Baby Boomers lied to us when they said your life would turn out great if you work hard study hard make a 4.0 in college and you dont need to work until after college and borrowed all those student loans.


Almost like their incomes don't provide extra money after food, shelter and transportation are covered. :wink:


It can be a bit hard to invest in things, when most of your money goes directly to living expenses. In that situation you don't really have a lot of money you can risk on investments that may or may not work out.

Also, if you are on SSI you can't invest or save up anything if you ever have over 2,000 at one time they can boot you off(you can get it back, if you go back below that, but it's a big hassle).

you dont need a lot of money to invest in the stock market while you are young to be a millionaire.....every litle bit helps....some money invested is better than no money invested.Earl Crawley from Baltimore,Maryland made it work and he was a low wage worker his whole life and retired well-off.A lot of millionaires never made a lot of money in their life through their job just read the Millionaire Next Door or Everyday Millionaires or any Dave Ramsey book.



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13 Dec 2021, 4:43 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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Young Millennials and Zoomers have a different relationship with work than previous generations, there's a real "I'm not going to bust my ass for you and hope you treat me well" attitude shift that frankly I approve of. I'm an old Millennial myself, and I've gone from being that good employee that went the extra mile and would go out of my way to help out to doing the minimum I can get away with over the years as I've gotten shafted over and over by employers who don't reciprocate my loyalty and extra efforts, and I've actually owned a business and seen what it's like from the other side of the paycheck.

I will fire them if they dont bust their butts at all times for me and those who dont go the extra mile will be fired since its my company.That kind of attitude does not work in the oilfield.


And they'll unionize and remove your ability to fire people.

Texas is a right to work state so they would be fired if the tried to unionize.


And who's going to do all the work? It's not like you're capable of doing all of the labour yourself and you might struggle to attract scabs after showing you're a petty, vindictive manager because why would anyone trust a boss like that?

We have young men that have drilled for us at all hours of the day and night for possibly 21 days on and 7 days off.



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13 Dec 2021, 5:42 pm

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
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Young Millennials and Zoomers have a different relationship with work than previous generations, there's a real "I'm not going to bust my ass for you and hope you treat me well" attitude shift that frankly I approve of. I'm an old Millennial myself, and I've gone from being that good employee that went the extra mile and would go out of my way to help out to doing the minimum I can get away with over the years as I've gotten shafted over and over by employers who don't reciprocate my loyalty and extra efforts, and I've actually owned a business and seen what it's like from the other side of the paycheck.

I will fire them if they dont bust their butts at all times for me and those who dont go the extra mile will be fired since its my company.That kind of attitude does not work in the oilfield.


And they'll unionize and remove your ability to fire people.

Texas is a right to work state so they would be fired if the tried to unionize.


And who's going to do all the work? It's not like you're capable of doing all of the labour yourself and you might struggle to attract scabs after showing you're a petty, vindictive manager because why would anyone trust a boss like that?

Hundreds of thousands or millions of young men in Texas and America as a whole would be more than willing to work on my oil and gas wells on my conditons for a good amount of money.


You might want to look up what right-to-work actually means. It just means you can't make membership mandatory for employment. If a majority have signed cards they're entitled to vote on forming a union, in a right-to-work state once the union is formed workers also have to then join it, in a state without RTW laws membership is automatic after voting to form.

More details on forming a union from the UFCW Local 540 Texas.


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13 Dec 2021, 5:45 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Young Millennials and Zoomers have a different relationship with work than previous generations, there's a real "I'm not going to bust my ass for you and hope you treat me well" attitude shift that frankly I approve of. I'm an old Millennial myself, and I've gone from being that good employee that went the extra mile and would go out of my way to help out to doing the minimum I can get away with over the years as I've gotten shafted over and over by employers who don't reciprocate my loyalty and extra efforts, and I've actually owned a business and seen what it's like from the other side of the paycheck.

I will fire them if they dont bust their butts at all times for me and those who dont go the extra mile will be fired since its my company.That kind of attitude does not work in the oilfield.


And they'll unionize and remove your ability to fire people.

Texas is a right to work state so they would be fired if the tried to unionize.


And who's going to do all the work? It's not like you're capable of doing all of the labour yourself and you might struggle to attract scabs after showing you're a petty, vindictive manager because why would anyone trust a boss like that?

Hundreds of thousands or millions of young men in Texas and America as a whole would be more than willing to work on my oil and gas wells on my conditons for a good amount of money.


You might want to look up what right-to-work actually means. It just means you can't make membership mandatory for employment. If a majority have signed cards they're entitled to vote on forming a union, in a right-to-work state once the union is formed workers also have to join it, in a state without RTW laws membership is automatic after voting to form.

More details on forming a union from the UFCW Local 540 Texas.

oh okay I am not a lawyer but whenever I worked at a big corporation locally they told us we would be fired if we even mentioned the word "union." and they bet they know the Texas employment law better than we do.



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13 Dec 2021, 5:46 pm

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oh okay I am not a lawyer but whenever I worked at a company locally they told us we would be fired if we even mentioned the word "union."


That's actually illegal even if it's not uncommon.


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13 Dec 2021, 5:49 pm

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oh okay I am not a lawyer but whenever I worked at a company locally they told us we would be fired if we even mentioned the word "union."


That's actually illegal even if it's not uncommon.

Oh okay I will take your word for it and determine what the law is when the time comes.Thanks for the heads up.I appreciate it.



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13 Dec 2021, 5:56 pm

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Young Millennials and Zoomers have a different relationship with work than previous generations, there's a real "I'm not going to bust my ass for you and hope you treat me well" attitude shift that frankly I approve of. I'm an old Millennial myself, and I've gone from being that good employee that went the extra mile and would go out of my way to help out to doing the minimum I can get away with over the years as I've gotten shafted over and over by employers who don't reciprocate my loyalty and extra efforts, and I've actually owned a business and seen what it's like from the other side of the paycheck.

I will fire them if they dont bust their butts at all times for me and those who dont go the extra mile will be fired since its my company.That kind of attitude does not work in the oilfield.


And they'll unionize and remove your ability to fire people.

Texas is a right to work state so they would be fired if the tried to unionize.


And who's going to do all the work? It's not like you're capable of doing all of the labour yourself and you might struggle to attract scabs after showing you're a petty, vindictive manager because why would anyone trust a boss like that?

We have young men that have drilled for us at all hours of the day and night for possibly 21 days on and 7 days off.


That sounds awful. Also, I can't imagine having over-worked sleep deprived workers is the best thing for productivity.


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13 Dec 2021, 6:00 pm

Since we're all giving Texasmoneyman tips on how to be an stereotypical evil top hat wearing boss: workplace diversity kills unions pretty effectively - ask Amazon. It's a tactic borrowed from higher level politics.


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13 Dec 2021, 6:10 pm

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You might want to look up what right-to-work actually means. It just means you can't make membership mandatory for employment.

There must be some advantage for employers or they wouldn't have bothered.


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You might want to look up what right-to-work actually means. It just means you can't make membership mandatory for employment.

There must be some advantage for employers or they wouldn't have bothered.


It sucks funding out of unions because free-riders get the benefits but don't have to pay dues.


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As Far As Demographics Go, Go; i've Met Younger People than me,
Who Weren't Willing to Work As Hard as me; And at the Same

Age; Yet, i Realize, i'm Not Exactly 'Normal' This Way;

Peers Usually Stayed A Bit Upset at me at School

And Work For Moving Ahead of the 'Pack' A Bit;

Yes, HAha, Some Things Stay Generally the
Same; i Once Had A Boss Tell me 10 Percent

of the Employees Do 90 Percent of the Work;

An Incentive it Seems then to Continue to Do What

i Was Doing, Even if it Literally Brought me Down to my

Knees Eventually; Which is Exactly What it Eventually Did;

And True, The Ones Who Cruised Through

Every Day Without Much

Worry over Getting

Everything

Done Perfectly,

Are Still There; One advantage

off Getting Burned-out and Trading

66 Months of My Life With a Total

of Life Threat in A Synergy of 19 Medical

Disorders Was Retiring Early After Earning 3 Degrees,

in 19 Years of School, in Tandem With 33 Years of Work, Including

3 Part Time Jobs Working Through University Life With A Full Class Load

Earning a Triple Major of 3 Degrees ALL AT ONCE AND THAT WAS WHEN

i First Experienced (Women Peers at Work And School Literally

Named me 'Superman')

What May Be

Described

As Autism

Burn-out at age

19 Through 21; As i came

Roaring Back at Age 22, Doing

More Than i Ever Imagined Before;

Same As i Do Now, Early Retired at 47; And

Financially Independent Literally More Productive

At 61, Measurably So than Any Date in my Life, TODAY;

And Never Making A Penny off of Anything i Do Now And Spending

Money; About A Half a Million Dollars, if Ya Consider Labor at Minimum

Wage for the Last 100 Months And More of Literally Bringing All Kinds of Joy to Thousands

of Folks Through

Dance and Song

Just to See them

Smile or Perhaps

Being Exposed to A Different
Way of Viewing the World, Even Before That;

It's Harder for Newer Generations, Overall,

FOR THE LARGEST REASON FINDING WORK

THAT HAS INHERENT HUMAN MEANING AND PURPOSE;

AND of Course, Wages Haven't Kept Up; Housing And Vehicles

Are 'Crazy Expensive' And Some of the Millennials i Know Are Still

In School around the age of 30; Never Married, Never Owning a Home

Or Even Still Staying at Home; Just With Little Direction of Where to Go Next...

Sort of Like

Floating

In Space

Without Much

Attention Span Either;

As Science Shows the Average

Human Has the Attention Span of

Literally A Gold Fish, less than 3 Seconds;

In This Way, i Have the Attention Span to Focus
on What i am Doing More Like a Frigging Blue Whale;

Whether or Not

Anyone is

Paying Attention

or Not, The Smiles

Get Done by 15,866 Miles

of Public Dance in Close to 100 Months

And Most All Ten MiLLioN Words of Free Verse
Poetry are Simply Copy And Pastes in Response
To Someone Who
Is actually

Listening
to What i Say;

One Thing About Being

On the Autism Spectrum,

With Bi-Polar, And ADHD; You

Find Work-Arounds that Work

Continually So to actually Survive and Thrive;

Hehe, At Least from Anecdotal Experience This is Surely What i Do;

The Most Entitled Demographic, Locally, i Have Ever Worked With as

Far As Their Current Job are the Retired Military Back Before the Year

2000, Who Were Part of the So-Called 'Greatest Generation'; As Many of them
Felt Like Their Military Service Allowed A Vacation At Their Military Contract
Or Civil Service Job; One Day i Surely Wanted to Feel Like Them, So At Ease With

Another Guaranteed Pay Check or Two Coming

In, Doing Another

Job Entitled to

The Benefits they

Receive; No matter What

Happens in their Current Job;

It's True, i Am Entitled Now too;

And The Way i Was Treated As A Valuable

Commodity; Same Way the Military Are Generally

Treated As Commodities of the Government While they

Actively Serve; i Have No Guilt For the Entitlements i Receive

With my Retirement Moving From 40 Percent to 100 Percent Next

June Reaching Early Social Security Retirement Age at 62; Healthier,

Stronger Than ever Before;

Yet Odd Enough,

Obviously

Enough, Not

To Fit in the

Definition of

Modern Society where

Generally Speaking NO ONE

WRITES A TEN MILLION WORLD

LONG FORM POEM OR DANCES IN

PUBLIC FOR 15,866 MILES IN 100 MONTHS

TOO; HELL, IT'S JUST ABOUT A MIRACLE I'M EVEN
ALLOWED TO FIT INTO 'THE WRONG PLANET ONLINE'

(Thanks for the "Medical Dispensation', Sincerely)

A PLACE FOR
THE SO-CALLED

NEURODIVERSE;

Yet, note, i'm Still Here, Yes,

No, Some of Us Never Give Up

Even if We Have the ACTUAL SUICIDE
DISEASE FROM WAKE TO SLEEP FOR 66

MONTHS THAT NO DRUG WILL TOUCH,

Yep, in my Case, Type Two Trigeminal Neuralgia,

Likely From the Result of 11 Years of Chronic to

Fight and Flight Acute Work-Related Stress in the

Last Two Years of the Span of Dates from 1996 to 2007;

So What Do i Say to the Newer Generations that Say F U

To Folks Who Wanna Run Them Ragged to Death to Keep

A Job With Little Meaning and Purpose in Life;

Fun You;

i HOPE YOU

FIND A MORE

MEANINGFUL AND

PURPOSEFUL WAY OF

MAKING A LIVING THAN

FRIGGING KILLING YOURSELF

RATHER THAN TELLING YOUR

EMPLOYER TO TAKE THIS JOB AND SHOVE IT...

YET on the Other Hand, The Financial Independence

is Worth it Now; Yet When You Are Living in HeLL ON EartH

For 66 Months, Wondering if You Can Exist another Second in Life,

Nope,

Life

Doesn't

Look the
Same through
Those SHaDeS of Life...

THornS And FLoWeRS Yes

Roses Do Wilt And Still Rise As Roses...

Good Luck, Whoever You Are And Make
Life Real MaGiC if Ya can And Wilt Now...

And

Actually

Do it Now For Real...

For me at least, it's
Always a Work oF Art

And i Don't Need to Know

How to Do it As i Don't Need to
Get Paid, Similarly to Many of the

Retired 'Greatest Generation' Military
Folks in Their 'Cushy Contractor and
Civil Service Jobs' Then; Golden Ages

Vary;

At Least

i'm Still Using

111 Percent and

More of What Many
Folks Would See as
Normal Effort Every Day...

Yet Of Course, Many Folks

Believe That Work Without Pay

is Worthless; of Course They Don't Even Understand
How the Human Condition Even Works, if they Belief that Horse S88T...

-in my Opinion...

~Boom

Boom...

My Age
is Every
Age NoW iN Play
Dancing Singing Free
iNHaLinG Peace Exhaling
LoVE iN JoY oF LiGHT Giving,
Sharing, Caring Freely For All
With Least Harm for All Now;

Basically, Just Emptying my
Pockets And Living Off the

Kindess of Others Serving

With LoVE FEARLESS
Now, With or
Without the

Clothes/
Tools oF

CuLTuRE

God F iN Yes!

Back to Nature
Free, Yes Fred Am i..;)



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13 Dec 2021, 6:17 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Young Millennials and Zoomers have a different relationship with work than previous generations, there's a real "I'm not going to bust my ass for you and hope you treat me well" attitude shift that frankly I approve of. I'm an old Millennial myself, and I've gone from being that good employee that went the extra mile and would go out of my way to help out to doing the minimum I can get away with over the years as I've gotten shafted over and over by employers who don't reciprocate my loyalty and extra efforts, and I've actually owned a business and seen what it's like from the other side of the paycheck.

I will fire them if they dont bust their butts at all times for me and those who dont go the extra mile will be fired since its my company.That kind of attitude does not work in the oilfield.


And they'll unionize and remove your ability to fire people.

Texas is a right to work state so they would be fired if the tried to unionize.


And who's going to do all the work? It's not like you're capable of doing all of the labour yourself and you might struggle to attract scabs after showing you're a petty, vindictive manager because why would anyone trust a boss like that?

We have young men that have drilled for us at all hours of the day and night for possibly 21 days on and 7 days off.


That sounds awful. Also, I can't imagine having over-worked sleep deprived workers is the best thing for productivity.

Well oil and gas requires working non-stop every day of the year or millions of dollars or billions of dollars would be gone and there would be no gasoline,diesel,jet fuel,plastics, or natural gas or propane.The oil and gas industry has operated like that ever since the first well was drilled in 1859.



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13 Dec 2021, 7:03 pm

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Young Millennials and Zoomers have a different relationship with work than previous generations, there's a real "I'm not going to bust my ass for you and hope you treat me well" attitude shift that frankly I approve of. I'm an old Millennial myself, and I've gone from being that good employee that went the extra mile and would go out of my way to help out to doing the minimum I can get away with over the years as I've gotten shafted over and over by employers who don't reciprocate my loyalty and extra efforts, and I've actually owned a business and seen what it's like from the other side of the paycheck.

I will fire them if they dont bust their butts at all times for me and those who dont go the extra mile will be fired since its my company.That kind of attitude does not work in the oilfield.


And they'll unionize and remove your ability to fire people.

Texas is a right to work state so they would be fired if the tried to unionize.


And who's going to do all the work? It's not like you're capable of doing all of the labour yourself and you might struggle to attract scabs after showing you're a petty, vindictive manager because why would anyone trust a boss like that?

We have young men that have drilled for us at all hours of the day and night for possibly 21 days on and 7 days off.


That sounds awful. Also, I can't imagine having over-worked sleep deprived workers is the best thing for productivity.

Well oil and gas requires working non-stop every day of the year or millions of dollars or billions of dollars would be gone and there would be no gasoline,diesel,jet fuel,plastics, or natural gas or propane.The oil and gas industry has operated like that ever since the first well was drilled in 1859.

Bear in mind that many people here have sensory issues that prevent them from being able to work in fields that are as strenuous as the oil drilling industry. I couldn't do what you do, so you have my respect. A lot of people here lack any concept of that. It's difficult sometimes to understand what seems to us slave labor is so rewarding. I have a stepbrother who works offshore. His family lacks for nothing.

Personally, I think if I'd started at a young age I might have adapted to it and enjoyed it. I'm good at repetitive tasks, have a high tolerance for pain, and am good at following instructions. Musicians typically are. :lol:



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Bear in mind that many people here have sensory issues that prevent them from being able to work in fields that are as strenuous as the oil drilling industry. I couldn't do what you do, so you have my respect. A lot of people here lack any concept of that. It's difficult sometimes to understand what seems to us slave labor is so rewarding. I have a stepbrother who works offshore. His family lacks for nothing.


Being a roughneck is hard, but has TMM300 ever done that part of the work or has he done other work related to that industry?


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Bear in mind that many people here have sensory issues that prevent them from being able to work in fields that are as strenuous as the oil drilling industry. I couldn't do what you do, so you have my respect. A lot of people here lack any concept of that. It's difficult sometimes to understand what seems to us slave labor is so rewarding. I have a stepbrother who works offshore. His family lacks for nothing.


Being a roughneck is hard, but has TMM300 ever done that part of the work or has he done other work related to that industry?

well actually I have been a roughneck and I had to go really high all the time.But I actually started out as a landman and lease broker and thats something I still do but I have worked 24/7 in the family oil company since I was a 19 pretty much.I work 24/7 in my family's enterprises.I am also a drilling scout and salesman in the industry.



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funeralxempire wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Bear in mind that many people here have sensory issues that prevent them from being able to work in fields that are as strenuous as the oil drilling industry. I couldn't do what you do, so you have my respect. A lot of people here lack any concept of that. It's difficult sometimes to understand what seems to us slave labor is so rewarding. I have a stepbrother who works offshore. His family lacks for nothing.


Being a roughneck is hard, but has TMM300 ever done that part of the work or has he done other work related to that industry?

You guys really shouldn't waste your time debating with him.


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