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76% of all Americans can say what they want, but it's Biden who's going to make the final call.

What about your claim that the majority of such people are secretly racist and just don't want a black woman? Are you going retract the claim, or just pretend like you never made it?

And his party will face the fall-out (even 54% of his party's supporters are against him on this) in the mid-terms later this year...

As Sir Humphrey would say: It's a courageous decision he is making.

I never said all those people are racists. But racists have used just that argument.

I seriously doubt this issue is going to be a make or break matter for Biden and the Dems.

Yeah, you kinda did:

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Now, are you going to own it, or try to wriggle away?

The implication was, it's the people with power to fill positions who justify racial prejudice with: "just looking for qualified people."
I was pretty sure that fact was recognized.

still waiting for somebody to demonstrate the nominees aren't deserving?

Diogenes....lantern..

It's always fascinating when people dislike hearing their own advice.

Seems a bit petty.



You have to appreciate a good false-choice trap, though.



I wouldn't hold my breath.

In general, it's interesting how people say america isn't racist, until it suddenly totally is - usually in a rather I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I manner.

America is very racist.

But it is a friendly racism.

Communism has nasty racism.

There lies the difference.

Again, that's not even close to what you said, there was no implication of "people with power" in what you posted, which in case you've forgotten was:



What words in those two sentences limit your claim solely to decision makers? "Most people who say..." isn't "people with the power to make the decision". I know non-fiction isn't your forte, but seeing as how your own words are quite clear (and well documented), I'd suggest a retraction and correction, it's going to be a lot less painful than doubling down will be.

There isn't a nominee yet for anyone to claim isn't deserving, that's not the claim being made. What has been said is that by announcing in advance that he's only considering black women, Biden has made it clear that he's not making his choice based on who's the best judge period, but instead who's the best black female judge, putting race and gender ahead of legal acumen. Maybe the best judge for the job is a black woman, but because Biden said that race and sex are the most important factors for his choice, we'll never really know that, there will always be the question of "would she be the nominee if she weren't a black woman?", which is both cruel to his nominee, and bad politics from Biden, who really should know better.

Our vice president is an excellent example of this very phenomenon, a lackluster and unpopular politician who absolutely no one believes would be VP if it weren't for her race and gender, a mediocrity elevated far beyond her competence due to stupid identity politics, who even the DNC is panicking about due to her unpopularity and ineffectiveness. They keep talking about putting her on the court, not because she'd be a good justice but because they can't figure out a better way to get rid of her before 2024, and they think picking a new VP would fire up the base. Now, that plan happens to be DoA as she's not interested and she couldn't cast the tie-breaking vote to confirm herself or her replacement, but the fact that it's being talked about a lot in Democratic circles should tell you something.

Did I give advice? And why would I like a sad attempt at trolling me? You have to admit it was pretty childish, the whole trying to use my own bit on me thing, especially as that was in response to someone trying to whatabout me for the umpteenth time when they know full well I'm not a Republican and don't care what the Gipper did in the 80s.



What's false about it? Would you like to dispute my characterization of what he said? Please, be my guest, explain to us how what Kraichgauer said didn't actually mean what it plainly did, I'm open to correction.



Well, yeah, since there isn't a nominee for anyone to make any claims about and all.



Is anyone claiming that there isn't racism in America? I must have missed that post, got a link?

@Uncommondenominator

I don't want another protracted slugging match spilling out across multiple threads, it annoys the mods and I don't like losing posts to the inevitable cleanup, so maybe knock it off with the sniping. I've been here 14 years, I've been through dozens if not hundreds of guys just like you who make the same predictable attacks, it's tiresome at this point, so could you please just not?

I'm happy to debate this stuff with you if you want to be constructive about it, but I'm not going to stand for any more essays about how much I suck; you've gotten away with that in the past because you've mostly targeted people who have principled objections to involving mods as well as disfavored politics, but I'm not them. Take that however you want to.

Where's the like button?

First of all, a "sad attempt at trolling you"? I literally used your exact "trolly" response to another member, with the target replaced. You may as well call a mirror "ugly". Smart guy.

So far you're the one writing big lumps of text. They're just words. You can always ignore them.

Bad uncommondenominator, very bad! There, you happy?

I take my tea sweet, with lemon. Chop chop.