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07 Jul 2022, 3:00 pm

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Can you imagine Raab as pm?
Crikey no! 8O He's bad enough where he is.

Raab has said he's not entering the race for a new leader/PM, so that's something I suppose.
Every time I see him on the box he looks like he's about to beat someone up - he has the look of just managing to keep a lid on their boiling rage.


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07 Jul 2022, 3:33 pm

His replacement, Samuel Allardyce, looks like a real sweetheart . . .

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07 Jul 2022, 4:26 pm

That's interesting Fnord because if we were talking about a football manager being sacked or resigning he wouldn't be allowed to stay on as caretaker for the next few months.

Imagine the devastation that could cause the club. Relegation, relegation, relegation!

So why should a pm of a country get to stay on after the same kind of fate.


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07 Jul 2022, 4:34 pm

There's no real hope for this country, I think.

In the Tory party, the debate is about idiotic stuff like tax cuts and deregulation.

In the Labour Party, it's identity politics and rejoining the EU.

Don't even get me started on the Lib F***ing Dems and the SNP!


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07 Jul 2022, 4:48 pm

babybird wrote:
That's interesting Fnord because if we were talking about a football manager being sacked or resigning he wouldn't be allowed to stay on as caretaker for the next few months.

Imagine the devastation that could cause the club. Relegation, relegation, relegation!

So why should a pm of a country get to stay on after the same kind of fate.
Your country's leadership seems to be about a brilliant as ours.

That is, rather dim and unreliable.

I find myself sympathising more often with the regular blokes than with the people running things.



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07 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm

No government is perfect, but let us not forget how these idiots get into power.

We live in a democracy.

They put out their best front man/woman and then we vote.



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08 Jul 2022, 1:42 am

DeepHour wrote:
In the Labour Party, it's identity politics and rejoining the EU.


it absolutely isn't. That is just what the Daily Mail wants people to believe.



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08 Jul 2022, 2:12 am

^ I'm a Telegraph and Guardian person myself. How's that for a combination?

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08 Jul 2022, 2:15 am

DeepHour wrote:
There's no real hope for this country, I think.

In the Tory party, the debate is about idiotic stuff like tax cuts and deregulation.

In the Labour Party, it's identity politics and rejoining the EU.

Don't even get me started on the Lib F***ing Dems and the SNP!


They never talk about how Mr and Mrs Hardnox have to use a food bank to feed their kids even though they both work 40 hours a week.


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08 Jul 2022, 3:01 am

DeepHour wrote:
^ I'm a Telegraph and Guardian person myself. How's that for a combination?

:P


I am not a newspaper reader but do try and get viewpoints from across the political divide. I quite like Iain Dale on LBC as a political commentator. Stood in a GE for the Tories in 2005. He doesn't hide where his loyalty is but will happily tear the Conservatives apart if they are failing at something



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08 Jul 2022, 3:02 am

of those to throw their hat into the ring so far, Tugendhat for me stands out



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08 Jul 2022, 3:08 am

But also keep in mind that some of those announcing they are going to run to be PM, are not actually going to run to be PM. They are actually just negotiating for a cabinet position. Such is the silliness of politics.



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08 Jul 2022, 4:08 am

Fnord wrote:
babybird wrote:
That's interesting Fnord because if we were talking about a football manager being sacked or resigning he wouldn't be allowed to stay on as caretaker for the next few months.

Imagine the devastation that could cause the club. Relegation, relegation, relegation!

So why should a pm of a country get to stay on after the same kind of fate.
Your country's leadership seems to be about a brilliant as ours.

That is, rather dim and unreliable.

I find myself sympathising more often with the regular blokes than with the people running things.


Well as long as we have millionaires and billionaire's leading the worlds government's we might as well resign ourselves to looking after each other whilst they just look after themselves.

It's funny how the poor people help the poor and the rich help the rich.


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08 Jul 2022, 4:29 am

I wonder what change in politics there was in the uK around 2010 that seems to have impacted food bank usage so dramatically.....

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08 Jul 2022, 4:33 am

I dunno. I always assume that the universal credit roll out had something to do with it.


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08 Jul 2022, 4:46 am

a change in power