The Goons of the Right
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
I did not put the usual the wokes are bad also in. I have wrote wokes bad/wokes bad also enough times that people should know I am not woke. Wokes bad also is a defensive maneuver unfortunately needed because of the zero sum game thinking predominant. I was reacting to a criticism of Right Wing Republicans not Democrates.
Ironically, when you're only criticizing 'the wokes' you don't get smeared as lacking balance. It's almost like some people expect you to call things even regardless of reality, rather than voice valid criticisms.
It's not as though your history of criticism for 'the wokes' isn't widely known to posters on here, which makes it look like the real goal of the criticism you're receiving is that you're focusing on a problem with the right instead of pretending like the problem is equally distributed.
But what about all the attempted coups from the left? Not that Trump's coup was an attempted coup, it failed therefore it couldn't have been serious so let's talk about the woke instead of the totally-not-a-coup or it's supporters because taking a fair approach always means focusing critiques towards the left.
- paraphrasing our favourite enlightened centrist
Always the one to protect the left.
I can't recall any other than progressive politics from you.
I bet your leftist testicle that you ONLY support left-wing policies.
You are hardly a proper representative of balanced commentary.
I don't claim to be "balanced" because I know none of us are. I just like pointing when others are also obviously biased, especially when they insist on claiming otherwise.
At least I understand how to be honest about where I stand instead of pretending to be "balanced".
You don't understand the concept of being balanced very well.
If valuing The Truth is being biased, then so be it.
kraftiekortie wrote:
I don’t find Marxists to be all scum.
I find them to be misguided. They have a simplistic view of “class struggle,” and don’t see people as being individual persons.
Under Marxist dictatorships, Marxists did do very scummy things, however.
I find them to be misguided. They have a simplistic view of “class struggle,” and don’t see people as being individual persons.
Under Marxist dictatorships, Marxists did do very scummy things, however.
It seems that Marxist ACTIVISTS tend to be.
I have a particular problem with virtue-signalling egomaniacs who are more interested in their celebrity than justice.
BTW, I despise Neo-Nazis also.
f**k all extremists, no matter the politics.
funeralxempire wrote:
Who are you to gatekeep who's aboriginal and who's not? 
What an odd reply.
Hmmm...
Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker, IMO.
You know you don't HAVE TO argue with me just for the sake of it, right?
If the man has no aboriginal "blood"/heritage and is pretending to be something he is not, he is fake.
He has no aboriginal lineage, and this has been investigated.
If I identify with being a Native Amerrian, are you OK with that?
Falsely identifying as being aboriginal is a big problem over here.
Many aboriginals are angry about it because true aboriginals may miss out on benefits.
I posted an article recently about that.
Not only does having some aboriginal lineage gain social prestige here in Australia, but there are also many perks involved.
Here in Australia, there is "Black Privilege".
Odd that some ppl think Australia is more racist than Aameria.
cyberdad wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
What about the goons on the left? They obviously know that the pen is mightier than the gun for pushing their agenda. 
Oh no! you mean their agenda for pushing for a safe, egalitarian society and a sustainable planet for everyone? how shocking...
You seem to have a bad case of "Confirmation Bias".
Cancel culture...
Collectivist zombyism...
Destruction of individualism...
Potential appropriation of hard-won personal wealth...
BTW, I have issues with the right of politics, also.
I hate big business. "Power corrupts...Absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely".
I have no time for religion, not that all conservatives are religious.
Senior health care was pathetic under successive conservative governments.
Morrison unnecessarily provoked China, the ninny.
One more time for the dummies:
I will never vote for ANY party ever again.
A pox on ALL their houses.
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Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Who are you to gatekeep who's aboriginal and who's not? 
What an odd reply.
Hmmm...
Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker, IMO.
You know you don't HAVE TO argue with me just for the sake of it, right?
If the man has no aboriginal "blood"/heritage and is pretending to be something he is not, he is fake.
He has no aboriginal lineage, and this has been investigated.
If I identify with being a Native Amerrian, are you OK with that?
Falsely identifying as being aboriginal is a big problem over here.
Many aboriginals are angry about it because true aboriginals may miss out on benefits.
I posted an article recently about that.
Not only does having some aboriginal lineage gain social prestige here in Australia, but there are also many perks involved.
Here in Australia, there is "Black Privilege".
Odd that some ppl think Australia is more racist than Aameria.
Has it been proven, or have your preferred sources decided it's been proven?
But more broadly, it's reasonable for indigenous people to have discussions over who is and who isn't a part of their community. It really doesn't look so good when people who aren't a part of that community insist on using line of attack because it's not their issue to weigh in on. For some reason it's always a certain bloc that makes a stink over the ancestry of people like Colin Kaepernick or of people who mention connections to indigenous ancestry without meeting a certain blood quantum.
It's not to suggest that there isn't anyone who doesn't either claim heritage they don't possess, or exaggerate aspects of their heritage - it's that the bitter hostility from people who don't actually have a dog in the fight serves to dissuade people from exploring their ancestry or seeking to further connections to it.
I've got loved ones who deal with the ramifications of the attitude you're peddling because apparently someone can't look Parsi but also be First Nations.
You've made that claim of 'black privilege' before, but it seems to be substantiated with trust me bro.
This is just another issue where you're peddling tabloid hysteria. Peak emotionalism.
Pepe wrote:
You don't understand the concept of being balanced very well.
If valuing The Truth is being biased, then so be it.
If valuing The Truth is being biased, then so be it.
That's the thing though, you consistently demonstrate that you don't value truth, you value having your biases reinforced.
There's a difference between being balanced and insisting unequal things are equal. Insisting unequal things are equal because acknowledging otherwise would hurt the team you cheer for has to be well within the definition of hyperpartisan and it isn't at all within the realm of balanced. It isn't rationalism, it's emotionalism.
The Shaman of Critical Thinking has spoken.
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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Who are you to gatekeep who's aboriginal and who's not? 
What an odd reply.
Hmmm...
Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker, IMO.
You know you don't HAVE TO argue with me just for the sake of it, right?
If the man has no aboriginal "blood"/heritage and is pretending to be something he is not, he is fake.
He has no aboriginal lineage, and this has been investigated.
If I identify with being a Native Amerrian, are you OK with that?
Falsely identifying as being aboriginal is a big problem over here.
Many aboriginals are angry about it because true aboriginals may miss out on benefits.
I posted an article recently about that.
Not only does having some aboriginal lineage gain social prestige here in Australia, but there are also many perks involved.
Here in Australia, there is "Black Privilege".
Odd that some ppl think Australia is more racist than Aameria.
Has it been proven, or have your preferred sources decided it's been proven?
But more broadly, it's reasonable for indigenous people to have discussions over who is and who isn't a part of their community. It really doesn't look so good when people who aren't a part of that community insist on using line of attack because it's not their issue to weigh in on. For some reason it's always a certain bloc that makes a stink over the ancestry of people like Colin Kaepernick or of people who mention connections to indigenous ancestry without meeting a certain blood quantum.
"Read my lips".
Yes, it has been proven.
The registry of "Births, Deaths & Marriages" has been investigated.
Bruce Pascoe has no aboriginal blood at all.
He is of colonial stock.
In addition to this, aboriginal leaders, plural, deny that he has a connection to the communities that he says he is a member of.
Aren't you being a little politically incorrect in saying they are liars?
Or is it that you simply didn't know the complete story regarding Pascoe?
funeralxempire wrote:
It's not to suggest that there isn't anyone who doesn't either claim heritage they don't possess, or exaggerate aspects of their heritage - it's that the bitter hostility from people who don't actually have a dog in the fight serves to dissuade people from exploring their ancestry or seeking to further connections to it.
To be klear to the audience, I don't do that.
I think you are still confused.
Pasco is a pure-blood colonialist, proven.
Can't you see the irony?
What he should do, IMO, is simply have a genetics test like Warren did.
Oddly enough, he chooses not to do that.
I wonder why?
funeralxempire wrote:
I've got loved ones who deal with the ramifications of the attitude you're peddling because apparently someone can't look Parsi but also be First Nations.
What part of "Pascoe's lineage has been checked and he is ONLY of colonial stock" don't you understand?
funeralxempire wrote:
You've made that claim of 'black privilege' before, but it seems to be substantiated with trust me bro.
Trust the EVIDENCE, bro.
The aboriginal community has privileges that non-aboriginals don't.
And when I say "non-aboriginals" I mean any other ethnic community.
You probably think I have a problem with that.
Why else are you arguing this way?
To be klear, I don't.
I don't follow a narrative.
I am interested in The Truth.
I have no bias in the matter one way or the other.
Those politics don't concern me.
I will accept whatever happens with "The Voice" or "Aboriginal Treaties".
And once again, I won't be voting at the referendum at all.
You are boxing at shadows.
funeralxempire wrote:
This is just another issue where you're peddling tabloid hysteria. Peak emotionalism.
What exactly do you think I am peddling?
I have explained my position.
I have explained that Pascoe has been investigated and found to have a "colonialist" heritage.
There are registered birth certificates to prove it.
Why are you defending a colonialist that is pretending to be a native indigenous person?
I think you are more interested in misrepresenting me than accepting The Truth.
What an odd position to take.
Pepe wrote:
You don't understand the concept of being balanced very well.
If valuing The Truth is being biased, then so be it.
If valuing The Truth is being biased, then so be it.
funeralxempire wrote:
That's the thing though, you consistently demonstrate that you don't value truth, you value having your biases reinforced.
Merely saying something doesn't make it so.
And THAT is The Truth.
funeralxempire wrote:
There's a difference between being balanced and insisting unequal things are equal. Insisting unequal things are equal because acknowledging otherwise would hurt the team you cheer for has to be well within the definition of hyperpartisan and it isn't at all within the realm of balanced. It isn't rationalism, it's emotionalism.
Are you referring to me?
Exactly what team am I in?
funeralxempire wrote:
The Shaman of Critical Thinking has spoken. 
The Oracle of Truth has spoken.
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Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
It's not to suggest that there isn't anyone who doesn't either claim heritage they don't possess, or exaggerate aspects of their heritage - it's that the bitter hostility from people who don't actually have a dog in the fight serves to dissuade people from exploring their ancestry or seeking to further connections to it.
To be klear to the audience, I don't do that.
Really? This seems to be one of the few issues related to indigenous concerns that you ever voice an opinion on it. Although to be fair, your overall views expressed regarding indigenous concerns seem to pretty closely mirror those expressed by Murdoch's tabloids.
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
You've made that claim of 'black privilege' before, but it seems to be substantiated with trust me bro.
Trust the EVIDENCE, bro.
The aboriginal community has privileges that non-aboriginals don't.
And when I say "non-aboriginals" I mean any other ethnic community.
What evidence? You never show evidence when repeating this claim.
Pepe wrote:
Are you referring to me?
Exactly what team am I in?
Exactly what team am I in?
Team News Corp, it would seem. Your biases generally mirror their biases.
The fixation on people pretending, combined with regularly trying to claim that 'black privilege' exists, along with the fixation on crime related to aboriginal communities really appears to be motivated by bias. Whether that's your biases, or the biases of the people you trust to inform you I can't be certain of.
Those three tropes (most of them are pretending, they all receive unfair special treatment and they're all criminals) are the general smears indigenous peoples regularly face. Maybe you're unaware of this or just insensitive to the concern, but your attempt to deflect my criticisms as being personally motivated might actually provide some insight into how little you understand my concern (as well as how little effort you've placed into trying to understand it).
Those media sources primary bias is their bottom line; appealing to racist sentiments drives engagement from their audience, whether it's viewership or clicks.
Of course, you're going to tell me I can't possibly observe your biases because I also have biases. I at least generally acknowledge my biases and attempt to control for them, rather than proclaiming myself the Oracle of Truth (even while being satirized for the behaviour).
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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
It's not to suggest that there isn't anyone who doesn't either claim heritage they don't possess, or exaggerate aspects of their heritage - it's that the bitter hostility from people who don't actually have a dog in the fight serves to dissuade people from exploring their ancestry or seeking to further connections to it.
To be klear to the audience, I don't do that.
Really? This seems to be one of the few issues related to indigenous concerns that you ever voice an opinion on it. Although to be fair, your overall views expressed regarding indigenous concerns seem to pretty closely mirror those expressed by Murdoch's tabloids.
So you are telling this skunk, who values autistic individuality that he has been brainwashed by right-wing propaganda?
"Interesting".
BTW, where have I ever indicated I was bitter towards the aboriginal community?
Could I not simply be giving an honest personal opinion based on facts?
"Curious."
Here are some opinions facts for you:
Quote:
Aboriginal Australians slam explosion in number of people falsely claiming to be indigenous to steal scholarships and job opportunities
The number of Australians who identify themselves as indigenous has exploded
'Box tickers' can be motivated by receiving scholarships and monetary benefits
The increase in recent decades cannot be explained solely by higher birth rates
The phenomenon is claimed to be prevalent in academia and the public service
The number of Australians who identify themselves as indigenous has exploded
'Box tickers' can be motivated by receiving scholarships and monetary benefits
The increase in recent decades cannot be explained solely by higher birth rates
The phenomenon is claimed to be prevalent in academia and the public service
Quote:
Prominent Aboriginal Australians have hit out at the rising number of people who are falsely identifying as indigenous to cash in on benefits like scholarships and priority jobs.
They say there is a growing cohort of fraudsters growing up in a non-indigenous background but later making dubious claims to Aboriginal heritage.
Indigenous actor Luke Carroll, who stars in a play that explores the contentious issue, described such false identification as a 'growing problem'.
They say there is a growing cohort of fraudsters growing up in a non-indigenous background but later making dubious claims to Aboriginal heritage.
Indigenous actor Luke Carroll, who stars in a play that explores the contentious issue, described such false identification as a 'growing problem'.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ebate.html
Are these aboriginals servicing a right-wing narrative or are they simply reacting to The Truth?
I have the impression that you still don't understand what is and isn't a "hyperpartisan".
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
You've made that claim of 'black privilege' before, but it seems to be substantiated with trust me bro.
Refer to the above article.
Trust the EVIDENCE, bro.
The aboriginal community has privileges that non-aboriginals don't.
And when I say "non-aboriginals" I mean any other ethnic community.
funeralxempire wrote:
What evidence? You never show evidence when repeating this claim.
<sigh>
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Are you referring to me?
Exactly what team am I in?
Exactly what team am I in?
Team News Corp, it would seem. Your biases generally mirror their biases.
My bias is towards The Truth.
No one has a monopoly on Truth.
Why do you consistently ignore other things I say?
I am anti-big business...
I can't stand the orange man...
I am pro-universal health care...
I am pro-Democrats and want them to win the next election.
What you are engaging in is "Confirmation Bias".
Plz stop.
I am tired of this skunk-bashing.
I may reply to the rest of you post at a later date.
Have a nice day.
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Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Really? This seems to be one of the few issues related to indigenous concerns that you ever voice an opinion on it. Although to be fair, your overall views expressed regarding indigenous concerns seem to pretty closely mirror those expressed by Murdoch's tabloids.
So you are telling this skunk, who values autistic individuality that he has been brainwashed by right-wing propaganda?
"Interesting".
Claiming to be unbiased and unaffected by one's choice of primary media outlets doesn't make it so, even if one repeats those claims and insists they're the oracle of truth.
Pepe wrote:
BTW, where have I ever indicated I was bitter towards the aboriginal community?
Could I not simply be giving an honest personal opinion based on facts?
"Curious."
Could I not simply be giving an honest personal opinion based on facts?
"Curious."
Does one need to admit holding a negative view before one can identify that they appear to?
Pepe wrote:
Here are some opinions facts for you:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ebate.html
Are these aboriginals servicing a right-wing narrative or are they simply reacting to The Truth?
Quote:
Aboriginal Australians slam explosion in number of people falsely claiming to be indigenous to steal scholarships and job opportunities
The number of Australians who identify themselves as indigenous has exploded
'Box tickers' can be motivated by receiving scholarships and monetary benefits
The increase in recent decades cannot be explained solely by higher birth rates
The phenomenon is claimed to be prevalent in academia and the public service
The number of Australians who identify themselves as indigenous has exploded
'Box tickers' can be motivated by receiving scholarships and monetary benefits
The increase in recent decades cannot be explained solely by higher birth rates
The phenomenon is claimed to be prevalent in academia and the public service
Quote:
Prominent Aboriginal Australians have hit out at the rising number of people who are falsely identifying as indigenous to cash in on benefits like scholarships and priority jobs.
They say there is a growing cohort of fraudsters growing up in a non-indigenous background but later making dubious claims to Aboriginal heritage.
Indigenous actor Luke Carroll, who stars in a play that explores the contentious issue, described such false identification as a 'growing problem'.
They say there is a growing cohort of fraudsters growing up in a non-indigenous background but later making dubious claims to Aboriginal heritage.
Indigenous actor Luke Carroll, who stars in a play that explores the contentious issue, described such false identification as a 'growing problem'.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ebate.html
Are these aboriginals servicing a right-wing narrative or are they simply reacting to The Truth?
Why not both? Is it possible that a problem exists but is exaggerated in some media circles?

Is it possible that at least some people of mixed descent are contributing to the increase?
Pepe wrote:
I have the impression that you still don't understand what is and isn't a "hyperpartisan".

Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
You've made that claim of 'black privilege' before, but it seems to be substantiated with trust me bro.
Refer to the above article.
Trust the EVIDENCE, bro.
The aboriginal community has privileges that non-aboriginals don't.
And when I say "non-aboriginals" I mean any other ethnic community.
funeralxempire wrote:
What evidence? You never show evidence when repeating this claim.
<sigh>
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Are you suggesting affirmative action is the same as privilege? Go on and make that case, tell us how so.
Pepe wrote:
Why do you consistently ignore other things I say?
I am anti-big business...
I can't stand the orange man...
I am pro-universal health care...
I am pro-Democrats and want them to win the next election.
What you are engaging in is "Confirmation Bias".
Plz stop.
I am anti-big business...
I can't stand the orange man...
I am pro-universal health care...
I am pro-Democrats and want them to win the next election.
What you are engaging in is "Confirmation Bias".
Plz stop.
Placing Australia's interests ahead of Trump doesn't discount my overall criticism.
I don't believe you're a MAGA type, although you're sometimes an apologist for them.
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There's no such thing as a free market.
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Really? This seems to be one of the few issues related to indigenous concerns that you ever voice an opinion on it. Although to be fair, your overall views expressed regarding indigenous concerns seem to pretty closely mirror those expressed by Murdoch's tabloids.
So you are telling this skunk, who values autistic individuality that he has been brainwashed by right-wing propaganda?
"Interesting".
Claiming to be unbiased and unaffected by one's choice of primary media outlets doesn't make it so, even if one repeats those claims and insists they're the oracle of truth.
Compared to YOU, I am unbiased.
In all the time I have known you, I can't recall where you have gone off the progressive narrative.
Remind me.
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
BTW, where have I ever indicated I was bitter towards the aboriginal community?
Could I not simply be giving an honest personal opinion based on facts?
"Curious."
Could I not simply be giving an honest personal opinion based on facts?
"Curious."
Does one need to admit holding a negative view before one can identify that they appear to?
You need evidence for that to be valid.
Plz provide some.
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just what is so wrong with progressivism? 
Progressivism = pay more tax + give up my guns + sell my petrol fueled vehicle + tighten my belt to to pay for ecofriendly policies + forced to take a vaccine + now I gotta live next door to BLM and refugees who are competing with me for jobs and who are dating my daughter who is brainwashed by CRT from school
that about sums up progressivism for a republican
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