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I just feel this s**t is so much easier said than done. Especially when you have a mental disorder that affects your ability to care for yourself.
I have tested as having definitely below average executive functioning ability. Not saying that means don't try, but holy s**t, it's hard and while there are tips and tricks, it never goes away. It will always be harder for me to accomplish daily tasks than it is for the neurotypical person next to me.

But you guys don't get it, we're supposed to be judgmental and boil the problem down to people (Christians in particular) being too stupid and lazy, rather than analyzing all of these relevant factors that contribute to why people might be making those sorts of dietary choices.



The goal of the thread isn't to have a nuanced discussion about the factors that contribute to obesity, it's to pat ourselves on the back for being more fit than those obese Christian rednecks, who are only obese due to being too stupid and lazy to make wholesome food from scratch for every meal and instead dare to eat Big Macs - I can't remember the last time I ate a big mac - maybe one in the last 10-15 years ? Aren't I great?!

If you dare bring up financial situation, here's a bunch of tips that might not even be applicable. Who cares if they don't have a freezer, cold room, pantry, etc? Just buy in bulk is advice that's applicable to everyone, no exceptions.

What's ironic is that a portion of Christian Nationalists are also crunchies who'd 100% agree with goldfish, until they realize he's mostly using obesity as WWF folding chair to slug Christian Nationalists with.

I don't think any of us would dispute that a lot of people make poor dietary choices. Personal responsibility is undeniably a factor, along with being adequately educated on the topic, along with being able to set aside the time to prepare healthy food, along with the self-discipline to not make homemade food that's even worse than restaurant food, etc, etc.

People are monkeys with better abstract reasoning, but only when we're actively employing it. Otherwise we're easily manipulated by bright colours and what will trigger the next dopamine cycle. One of the downsides to the sort of economy we live in is that junk food is everywhere and it's almost always the easiest option. Heh, the stupid monkey takes the easy food over the hard food, how stupid pretty much has the logic backwards, the easiest food has historically been something we're programmed to take because we couldn't count on getting those calories.

The companies that sell that stuff are doing what we incentivize them to do (make money by selling their product). The people buying it are doing what biology predisposes them to.

It's not all about them being stupid, it's also about us collectively being too stupid to understand that this is a very foreseeable problem and to maybe regulate that sort of industry.

So now it’s the cheesy poofs corporation and ronald McDonald’s fault that people make poor dietary/financial choices?

Everyone else is to blame.. it can’t possibly be the compound effect of one’s own choices & lifestyle that makes people out of shape and broke.

C’moooonnn.. you can’t possibly believe that.

Don’t you get biofeedback sensations like “I’m hungry,” or “I’m thirsty,” or “I’m craving salt because I’ve been exerting myself all day,” ?? that then spur you into action to seek, prepare, and consume food/drink?

There’s not all thaaaat much I. The way of executive functioning required to respond to your body’s needs for sustenance.

Don’t you get biofeedback sensations like “I’m hungry,” or “I’m thirsty,” or “I’m craving salt because I’ve been exerting myself all day,” ?? that then spur you into action to seek, prepare, and consume food/drink?

There’s not all thaaaat much I. The way of executive functioning required to respond to your body’s needs for sustenance.

I do not subscribe to any line of thinking that blames someone else for my choices if I eat a $12 Big Mac meal and a bag of chips for dinner. If I’m fat and broke for it, it’s because I made those poor choices. Ronny mcD isn’t to blame for it. Wtf

Some people do not notice those sensations until they are literally shaking from low blood sugar, yeah. It's a type of sensory issue where you are hyposensitive instead of hypersensitive.
That is not the case for me, but it is not uncommon for autistic people.

I do not subscribe to any line of thinking that blames someone else for my choices if I eat a $12 Big Mac meal and a bag of chips for dinner. If I’m fat and broke for it, it’s because I made those poor choices. Ronny mcD isn’t to blame for it. Wtf

How is executive dysfunction blaming someone else? It's literally just a disability. If I'm blaming anything it's my frontal lobe. You're dancing with straw men here.

funeral's post a few above blames the fast food industry and suggests the solution is government regulation. I wouldn't mind if they were regulated into serving healthier food, but I believe it's peoples own responsibility not to make it a regular part of their diet.

On the executive functioning thing - does it not require executive functioning to Go to Mcd's and order & pay for food? In that time & process one could cook a meal at home.

I either end up eating whatever snacks are in my house. Or will order delivery if I have money. Both of these things take significantly less effort. More often than not I literally take a bag of Cheezits as a meal over something more elaborate if it means having to fight executive dysfunction.

So my solution, since I can't cook consistently, is to have healthier snacks on hand. It doesn't take much executive function to eat some fruit and a bowl of lettuce.