Was Mary, the Mother of Jesus, Indeed a Virgin?

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Was Mary, the Mother of Jesus, Indeed a Virgin?
Yes, and she remained a virgin during her entire life 8%  8%  [ 7 ]
Yes, but she did not remain a virgin during her entire life 25%  25%  [ 23 ]
No, she was not a virgin while pregnant with Jesus 68%  68%  [ 63 ]
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19 Feb 2011, 4:43 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Technically she was a virgin for Jesus's birth, she lost her virginity sometime later because Jesus did end up having younger siblings so she and Joseph had kids sometime after Jesus's birth.


Some say those siblings might have been Joseph's by a previous marriage.

But it just occured to me that if thats so then why werent these tots in tow when they were making the journey to Bethlaham? So you're probably right.

By the way: for the above poster: the "Immaculate Conception" does not mean what folks think it means. It does not refer to Christ being of virgin birth. It means that Mary herself when she was conceived the normal biological way she was concieved free of original sin (unlike the rest of us) kinda like a spirtual firewall between the rest of the human race and jesus and his mother.
The concept was dreamed up in the high middle ages in the 1200's but became official catholic doctrine in the 19th centurey.



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19 Feb 2011, 4:46 pm

The only way Mary could've conceived without sex is if she asked some guy to jerk off and cum on her so she could rub her p**** with it.



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20 Feb 2011, 8:24 pm

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The severed lack of answers to this topic's question from the Bible troubles me. Allow me to answer the question from the definitive source.

Luke 1:26-31 (The Jerusalem Bible from 1966) reports that it was to “a virgin” whose name was Mary that the angel Gabriel carried the news: “You are to conceive and bear a son, and you must name him Jesus.” At this, verse 34 states, “Mary said to the angel, ‘But how can this come about, since I am a virgin [“I do not know man: i.e., as husband,” The 1970 New American Bible, Saint Joseph Edition footnote; “I am having no intercourse with a man,” New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, 1984 edition]?’” Matthew 1:22-25 (The Jerusalem Bible from 1966) adds: “Now all this took place to fulfill the words spoken by the Lord through the prophet: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son and they will call him Immanuel, a name which means ‘God-is-with-us’. When Joseph woke up he did what the angel of the Lord had told him to do: he took his wife to his home and, though he had not had intercourse with her, she gave birth to a son; and he named him Jesus.”

Is this reasonable? Surely it was not impossible for the Creator, who designed the human reproductive organs, to bring about the fertilization of an egg cell in the womb of Mary by supernatural means. Marvelously, Jehovah transferred the life-force and the personality pattern of his firstborn heavenly Son to the womb of Mary. God’s own active force, his holy spirit, safeguarded the development of the child in Mary’s womb so that what was born was a perfect human.—Luke 1:35; John 17:5.


If God's the father, then doesn't that mean that he knocked her up?



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20 Feb 2011, 9:12 pm

Jono wrote:

If God's the father, then doesn't that mean that he knocked her up?


And Mary enjoyed it thoroughly. Somewhere in the process she cried out (in Aramaic, of course) -- Oh God! Don't stop now!

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21 Feb 2011, 12:11 am

ruveyn wrote:
Jono wrote:

If God's the father, then doesn't that mean that he knocked her up?


And Mary enjoyed it thoroughly. Somewhere in the process she cried out (in Aramaic, of course) -- Oh God! Don't stop now!

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Somebody - maybe you, I'm not checking - did that one not that long back. Least you could do is insert the Aramaic.

Then we could convict you of the hate crime of public display of Aramaic.



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22 Apr 2011, 6:47 pm

Well, it would appear that modern Bible translations are going with Mary not having been a virgin.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42215497/ns/us_news-life/



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22 Apr 2011, 7:16 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Technically she was a virgin for Jesus's birth, she lost her virginity sometime later because Jesus did end up having younger siblings so she and Joseph had kids sometime after Jesus's birth.

Some say those siblings might have been Joseph's by a previous marriage.

Catholics? They certainly won't accept Mary losing her virginity at any time, the ones who believe Jesus had younger siblings rather than older, seem they can make that claim, given the likelihood of single fathers in that period.

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By the way: for the above poster: the "Immaculate Conception" does not mean what folks think it means. It does not refer to Christ being of virgin birth. It means that Mary herself when she was conceived the normal biological way she was concieved free of original sin (unlike the rest of us) kinda like a spirtual firewall between the rest of the human race and jesus and his mother.
The concept was dreamed up in the high middle ages in the 1200's but became official catholic doctrine in the 19th centurey.

Well, according to Mathew 1:18-23, it is a virgin birth, unless you want to dispute the interpretation of that biblical text.



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22 Apr 2011, 7:20 pm

pandabear wrote:
Well, it would appear that modern Bible translations are going with Mary not having been a virgin.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42215497/ns/us_news-life/

A politically correct translation of the Bible? lol

Why not change creation as well, and make Adam and Eve, both created equally from the dust and remove the rib part? that should be interesting actually.



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23 Apr 2011, 1:19 am

blunnet wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Well, it would appear that modern Bible translations are going with Mary not having been a virgin.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42215497/ns/us_news-life/

A politically correct translation of the Bible? lol

Why not change creation as well, and make Adam and Eve, both created equally from the dust and remove the rib part? that should be interesting actually.


Pft. The damage has been done from that notion, historically, and the noming on the Granny Smiths.


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23 Apr 2011, 3:04 am

blunnet wrote:

Why not change creation as well, and make Adam and Eve, both created equally from the dust and remove the rib part? that should be interesting actually.


it has been done. Adam's first wife was Lilith who was created from dust just like Adam.

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28 Sep 2012, 7:08 pm

From Thomas Jefferson's letter to John Adams

http://www.beliefnet.com/resourcelib/do ... ams_1.html

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...And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors....


The dawn of reason in these United States was indeed shortlived. Mr. Jefferson was overly optimistic.



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28 Sep 2012, 7:31 pm

I don't know. I never met the woman. Probably not.



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28 Sep 2012, 7:58 pm

Like any Jewish mother, Miriam (Mary) thought her son Y'shua (Jesus) was g-d and Y'shua thought his mother was a virgin.

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28 Sep 2012, 11:02 pm

I'm pretty certain that my mother was a virgin, too.



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02 Oct 2012, 10:04 pm

pandabear wrote:
I once ran this same poll on a completely different (non-Asperger) forum,

http://forum.tvsushi.com/index.php?show ... 35&hl=mary

A little over one-half believed Mary to have been a virgin, and, of these, a fair number (probably most of the Catholics) believed that Mary remained a virgin throughout her life.

Aspies may tend to be a bit more rational than most folks.


Didn't Jesus have siblings? So, what, they were virgin births as well?! Ridiculous!



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03 Oct 2012, 3:45 pm

Coastt wrote:
pandabear wrote:
I once ran this same poll on a completely different (non-Asperger) forum,

http://forum.tvsushi.com/index.php?show ... 35&hl=mary

A little over one-half believed Mary to have been a virgin, and, of these, a fair number (probably most of the Catholics) believed that Mary remained a virgin throughout her life.

Aspies may tend to be a bit more rational than most folks.


Didn't Jesus have siblings? So, what, they were virgin births as well?! Ridiculous!


Catholics explain this away by saying that Jesus' brothers and sisters were actually his cousins (or some such nonsense).