Which religions promote creativity and self-expression?

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01 Dec 2007, 12:02 am

As far as relationships go, South Park is probably the only proof that I am wanting an actual relationship, and not just wanting to get laid.

There, I said it.

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04 Dec 2007, 9:59 am

I may stick with do-it-yourself Lutheranism for a bit longer, while I sort a few things out.

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04 Dec 2007, 3:22 pm

nominalist wrote:

Averick wrote:

Wow! How could you belong to so many religions at one time??

I am a sociologist of religion, and I often make use of ethnographic field research (participant-observation). I join religions in order to study them. Quite a number of researchers do the same thing, but I probably do so more than most.

How is it that you missed out on the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses?

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04 Dec 2007, 3:41 pm

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How is it that you missed out on the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses?

There is too much in the way of "fine print" with those groups.

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04 Dec 2007, 6:46 pm

nominalist wrote:

Here is a listing of most of the religions I belong to currently:

I have a question on one of them - will send you a p.m.

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07 Dec 2007, 11:43 pm

pandabear wrote:

nominalist wrote:

Averick wrote:

Wow! How could you belong to so many religions at one time??

How is it that you missed out on the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses?

I don't think I could be a Mormon or a JW.

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08 Dec 2007, 6:57 am

None, because creating a new Religion is in and of itself an Art Form. When You create a Religion you're an Artist and when you follow one you're just the audience.

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08 Dec 2007, 11:33 am

nominalist wrote:

Here is a listing of most of the religions I belong to currently:
9. Discordianism (episkopos of my own cabal)

Me too. Manzanita Dorada, Episkopos-Princess of the Trojan Horse Cabalry. Pleasure.

Discordianism is really a pretty cool philosophy. Sometimes it's described as "Zen for round-eyes", which I think is funny. It encourages rejecting dogmatism and thinking for one's self, but without taking itself too seriously. It's certainly worth taking the less-than-an-hour out of your day that it'll take to read the [Principia].

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The Hell Law says that Hell is reserved exclus-
ively for them that believe in it. Further,
the lowest Rung in Hell is reserved for them
that believe in it on the supposition that
they'll go there if they don't.
HBT; The Gospel According to Fred, 3:1

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08 Dec 2007, 3:45 pm

manzanita wrote:

Discordianism is really a pretty cool philosophy. Sometimes it's described as "Zen for round-eyes", which I think is funny. It encourages rejecting dogmatism and thinking for one's self, but without taking itself too seriously.

It is Zen-lite. Unfortunately, the person who recently took over the website is trying to turn Discordianism into a mirror of her own belief system.

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08 Dec 2007, 3:53 pm

nominalist wrote:

manzanita wrote:

It is Zen-lite. Unfortunately, the person who recently took over the website is trying to turn Discordianism into a mirror of her own belief system.

PD.com?
Discordianism is set up kind of like the internet; such that the entire system cannot be brought down from any point, and even the elimination of central nodes leaves the rest of the system and its infrastructure intact.

So long as there are people out there who actually understand the main points of Discordianism and how they pertain to not listening to others, no one can turn it into anything.

The Trojan Horse Cabalry, at least, will remain unaffected.

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08 Dec 2007, 4:07 pm

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So long as there are people out there who actually understand the main points of Discordianism and how they pertain to not listening to others, no one can turn it into anything.

Perhaps it depends on whose "memes" take over. Here is the page I had in mind:

http://discordian.com/about.html#philosophy

Read from the top of that section of the page.

Notice that she used the term, "Our Philosophy & Theology" (not "My Philosophy & Theology").

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08 Dec 2007, 4:14 pm

Scary-- it's like she almost gets it but doesn't understand that her method of showing how she "gets it" demonstrates precisely that she doesn't.

Just remember that they are but a subset. You'll see a lot more "purism" at principiadiscordia.

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08 Dec 2007, 4:17 pm

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She also refers to herself as the "pope" in the next section of that page. ;-)

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08 Dec 2007, 4:23 pm

"The" pope? Not "a" pope? Oh jeeze.

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08 Dec 2007, 4:27 pm

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"The" pope? Not "a" pope? Oh jeeze.

Not exactly, she calls herself: "Pope Episkopos Saint Mae Victoria the Red Sage, KSC, The One Who Runs This Damned Thing."

However, she also wrote:

"If you are interested in being canonized by the Church of No Dead Saints, please send email to Saint Mae. Canonizations are only done in person. Saint Mae is based in the Silicon Valley of California, but does extensive travelling (including international), so even if you're far away and never leave the house, you may have a chance."

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14 Dec 2007, 6:16 am

I am still looking into this issue, but haven't found anything yet.

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