Are you worried about Political Correctness?

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Are you worried?
Yes! It's eroding freedom of speech! 58%  58%  [ 38 ]
No! 28%  28%  [ 18 ]
Not sure 5%  5%  [ 3 ]
Other 9%  9%  [ 6 ]
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11 Dec 2007, 9:42 pm

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It's all fecking BS anyway, because how can anything political be correct? Seriously, what's wrong with terms like cripple, spastic, manhole, black... They are WORDS for feck's sake, and WORDS CANNOT DO ANY PHYSICAL DAMAGE! Oh, and before someone says 'what about the mental anguish?' well, maybe if all these so-called PC idiots had a good long look at themselves, then they'd realise that if anyone gets upset over what is said has far deeper issues with life or whatever and maybe they should take a step back and get a reality check.

I mean, having to change Christmas because some other group gets offended. Grow up!! Changing Noddy and Enid Blyton stories because golliwogs were found to be racist. Grow the feck up!! People getting their arse kicked for voicing their opinion in whatever means and not being 'PC'. Grow up!! It's all just WORDS!!

So to sum it all up, no, I'm not worried about political correctness, because anyone who tries to bastardize the language just because of feelings needs to take a few valium and have a good lie down. Insanity at it's worst.


Unfortunately there a whole ideology of language obsession that pushes that crap, Postmodernist acedemics looking for "hidden meanings" in language where no such meaning really exist (such as radical feminists claiming that tall buildings are phallic symbols and E=MC2 is a sexist equation).


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11 Dec 2007, 9:45 pm

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You can't get rid of insults. Insults will always be around. Insults exist for every type of person. If you ban the current insults, new ones will take their place. Banning words stops nothing.


That's what I ment by "euphemism treadmill," the euphemisms get the same derogatory connotations as the original word.


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11 Dec 2007, 11:38 pm

Odin wrote:
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You can't get rid of insults. Insults will always be around. Insults exist for every type of person. If you ban the current insults, new ones will take their place. Banning words stops nothing.


That's what I ment by "euphemism treadmill," the euphemisms get the same derogatory connotations as the original word.


Exactly. Just like when they started calling the "mentally challenged" "special" instead. Now "special" has become an insult, which is quite sad.



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11 Dec 2007, 11:41 pm

I'm not worried, but it IS BS.



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13 Dec 2007, 3:21 pm

I guess I should have read before voting, i ain't worried at all if I'm PC because i ain't, but am worried about the PC idiots thinking I should conform.

God Bless George Bush and thank God Gore & kerry lost. God help us all if killary wins.

how much more none PC could I be to post that here in this liberal pit of members of the Hate Bush Cult.

have a nice day victims of AS



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13 Dec 2007, 4:23 pm

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I guess I should have read before voting, i ain't worried at all if I'm PC because i ain't, but am worried about the PC idiots thinking I should conform.

God Bless George Bush and thank God Gore & kerry lost. God help us all if killary wins.

how much more none PC could I be to post that here in this liberal pit of members of the Hate Bush Cult.

have a nice day victims of AS


But there's just as much conservative PC BS as there is liberal PC BS. Why do you accept one group while rejecting the other? I reject both. I come up with my own opinions.



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13 Dec 2007, 5:16 pm

marshall wrote:
Johnnie wrote:
I guess I should have read before voting, i ain't worried at all if I'm PC because i ain't, but am worried about the PC idiots thinking I should conform.

God Bless George Bush and thank God Gore & kerry lost. God help us all if killary wins.

how much more none PC could I be to post that here in this liberal pit of members of the Hate Bush Cult.

have a nice day victims of AS


But there's just as much conservative PC BS as there is liberal PC BS. Why do you accept one group while rejecting the other? I reject both. I come up with my own opinions.


true both sides try pushing their values on people, but which side is worse ?

In my opinion people pushing good moral values aren't as bad as people pushing everyone should be tolerant of everything, but people with moral values.

Should the government be telling people how to raise their kids or should parents be able to belong to a sick cult and raise their kids in ways most would think are wrong ? Even some mainstream christain churches are cult like. Should people be tolerant of racists if they aren't white, but if white people do anything even close to what some of those hate groups do they are not PC.
Dog fighting and cockfighting is normal in the countries many people called hispanics whatever that is come from, should americans be tolerant of it because they can claim it's their culture ? So was head hunting and scalping in other cultures. What next some aztec going to say we should be tolerant of human sacrifice because it's their culture ?

should society tolerate grown men marrying their 13 year old half sister because it's the culture in west virginia :lol:



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13 Dec 2007, 8:45 pm

Johnnie..... Nevermind, it's not worth my time.



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13 Dec 2007, 8:59 pm

I agree johnnie that this PC s**t goes way too far, I think if people just opened up their minds and didn't over-try to gain acceptance from minorities, and just treated them as they would anyone else, things would be better.
But being a flagrant bigot is not the answer. See, I'm always like the Dr. Phil of this board..... With this ret*d left/right culture war and cliques (it reminds me of high school, really), I call everything down the middle. But I believe people can respect others' cultures without kissing their asses.
Dude, also if you support bush your very gullible, you trust way too easily. I mean the guy is dripping with sleeze. Lets forget about the military commission act, HR1955, Patriot Act, waging an illegal war and sending our troops over seas to fight on false information, if you can support this guy (probably just because he has an R in front of his name when he talks on CNN)....



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13 Dec 2007, 10:15 pm

Johnnie wrote:
marshall wrote:
Johnnie wrote:
I guess I should have read before voting, i ain't worried at all if I'm PC because i ain't, but am worried about the PC idiots thinking I should conform.

God Bless George Bush and thank God Gore & kerry lost. God help us all if killary wins.

how much more none PC could I be to post that here in this liberal pit of members of the Hate Bush Cult.

have a nice day victims of AS


But there's just as much conservative PC BS as there is liberal PC BS. Why do you accept one group while rejecting the other? I reject both. I come up with my own opinions.


true both sides try pushing their values on people, but which side is worse ?

In my opinion people pushing good moral values aren't as bad as people pushing everyone should be tolerant of everything, but people with moral values.



It seems like this is a definitional debate. I am inferring since you say God Bless Bush, that you have the opinion that only Conservative Christian people have good moral values. This would make me think that you have a different idea of what morals are than what I do. You see I am not Christian, yet I still believe that killing another person is wrong, stealing is wrong, taking another's person choice away (bullying, sexual/physical abuse etc), but I also believe that it is our duty to protect our environment, to do what we can to provide equality for everyone... I could go on. I think you have an incorrect idea of what a left-wing leaning person believes. I consider myself to be Liberal, yet I am certainly not tolerant of discrimination in any form... There are so many things I am not tolerant of.

There are some opinions that need to be forced on everyone - for instance, we could never allow people to run around killing others and not be punished....



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13 Dec 2007, 10:57 pm

I voted No! but meant that: No, I'm not worried about being PC.

Loads of people need some lessons on discernment. No, I'm not talking about spiritual, biblical, or godly discernment. I mean the mental ability to understand and discriminate between relations.



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13 Dec 2007, 11:11 pm

marshall wrote:
But there's just as much conservative PC BS as there is liberal PC BS. Why do you accept one group while rejecting the other? I reject both. I come up with my own opinions.


Is the conservative side of it better called 'Fundamental Correctness' ?? As in the Fundamentally Correct age of the Earth is 6000-7000 years? As in "I don't buy into that fundamental correctness'?



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14 Dec 2007, 1:23 pm

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Dude, also if you support bush your very gullible, you trust way too easily. I mean the guy is dripping with sleeze.


his father was head of the CIA, he isn't as much of a sleeze as the other people who ran against him.

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It seems like this is a definitional debate. I am inferring since you say God Bless Bush, that you have the opinion that only Conservative Christian people have good moral values.


I didn't write that, I know some fine upstanding people of other religions.

I'm just not a member of the hate bush cult, the guy is trying his best and not selling out america like the last dirt bag did. He went to church also, amazingly the roof didn't fall in. :lol:



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14 Dec 2007, 3:57 pm

monty wrote:
marshall wrote:
But there's just as much conservative PC BS as there is liberal PC BS. Why do you accept one group while rejecting the other? I reject both. I come up with my own opinions.


Is the conservative side of it better called 'Fundamental Correctness' ?? As in the Fundamentally Correct age of the Earth is 6000-7000 years? As in "I don't buy into that fundamental correctness'?


I see the assertion that patriotism and religion are “good values” in themselves as conservative PC. It seems that all politicians, even the most liberal, have to pay lip service to these things if they want a chance to get elected. Polls show that the majority of Americans would never vote a non-religious person into office.



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14 Dec 2007, 4:04 pm

marshall wrote:
monty wrote:
marshall wrote:
But there's just as much conservative PC BS as there is liberal PC BS. Why do you accept one group while rejecting the other? I reject both. I come up with my own opinions.


Is the conservative side of it better called 'Fundamental Correctness' ?? As in the Fundamentally Correct age of the Earth is 6000-7000 years? As in "I don't buy into that fundamental correctness'?


I see the assertion that patriotism and religion are “good values” in themselves as conservative PC. It seems that all politicians, even the most liberal, have to pay lip service to these things if they want a chance to get elected. Polls show that the majority of Americans would never vote a non-religious person into office.


Sad isn't it? When people will vote a candidate based upon their religion, gender, or ethnicity, rather than their qualifications.



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14 Dec 2007, 8:13 pm

marshall wrote:
I see the assertion that patriotism and religion are “good values” in themselves as conservative PC. It seems that all politicians, even the most liberal, have to pay lip service to these things if they want a chance to get elected. Polls show that the majority of Americans would never vote a non-religious person into office.


Actually it's the same here in Australia with the Christian leader thing. It's an interesting thing that some people have the view that if someone doesn't follow 'their' moral values, then they don't have any. Even murderers have moral values.