"_______ is responsible for the Holocaust!"

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Poland.. I mean California.. has already fallen.
Arizona is next and will be followed by France
..or Colorado rather

Nazi comparisons=cheap

My post was all about how cheap Nazi comparisons are. Must you put your foot in your mouth so?

Fred2670=paranoid

I'm for stopping illegal immigration, dude. I just don't believe in a massive Mexican conspiracy to conquer the world. Also, white people are still in charge of California. Ahhh-nold is Austrian, and you can't get whiter than that.

P.S: "taking advantage of American free healthcare"---WHAT free healthcare?! Last time I checked, my medicine cost 250$ a month. And poor people (the vast majority of illegal immigrants are very poor) cannot even afford my level of insurance. Free healthcare is more of a Canadian thing.

And the Nazis are now a tool for the demonisation of nationalism by the new power elite in the Western world: the internationalists, who seek to abolish nation states via mass immigration, endless propaganda about “diversity”, and making sure (with support and pressure from Jewish groups) that the Holocaust gets shoved down the throats of schoolchildren, while these same schoolchildren are told next to nothing about the millions who were killed by Communism.

In fact, the Holocaust is so important to the powers-that-be that Holocaust revisionism, which is already a thought-crime in some countries, will soon be a thought-crime throughout the EU.

Why? What do these people have to hide?

I voted "Other", because the Nazis were responsible for the Holocaust.
Hitler bears the greatest blame, but could never have carried it out without
the Nazis willfully obeying him.
Thirdly to blame are the German people, for their being complicit
with the Nazis out of their own hatred for the Jews.

Hitler in a direct sense, Darwin in an excuse sense, and EUROPEAN GREED AND ANTISEMITISM in a general sense.... !

I'd far rather see my tax dollars going to give health care to hard-working mexican immigrants that to anyone, American though they may be, who shows up at the ED because they've run out of money for alcohol and are now detoxing and want pain meds, or because they have 'vaginal itching,' (it happens, I kid you not), or because they're addicted to heroin and want free morphine, or whatever.


*snort*
in your own mind only, dude. I'll believe it when mexicans start blowing themselves up in shopping markets.

EVERYTHING that is currently being said about mexican immigrants was once said about the Irish.

Ahh, no wonder I am so unalarmed. I am already in an occupied state.

...nevermind that Alta California was Mexican before it was American.

actually by law, the doctors are required to give them free healthcare.

but fixing the illegal immigration problem is easy...and it's not a battle or anything idiotic like that. it's just get rid of the corrupt mexican government. the one country that would WELCOME our invasion and we don't take it. it's like the fat chick you refuse to get with even though you know flat out she'd dry you out.

Accepting responsibility topic

As I wrote in a post here, on page five, there are a host of conditions that can lead to any genocide. Not all conditions must be present but analyses of countries who have practised genocide yield many of these conditions that preceded mass murder specifically targeting a group of people.

Saul Friedlander's books: Nazi Germany and the Jews, volumes I and II and The years of Extermination are good sources for the causes and events preceding (and during) the catastrophe known as HaShoah.

In simple terms, it is as I laid it out.
In simplest terms, evil in the form of mass hatred was the cause of the Holocaust, thusly:
Attempted extermination of a people is one thing,
but the cruelty involved in the way they did it is quite another.
That cannot be chalked up to anything except evil.
(Not saying you're disagreeing; just stating clearly for the record: evil is real.)

Well my dad's side of the family was killed off by Nazis in what is the present day Czech Republic. Anyway this is a very sensitive matter to talk about.

1. Internationalists are not nationalists. That's rhetorically impossible.

2. The Holocaust is misused, but perhaps less than you say. It is talked about so much because it represents everything embarrassing about human nature that needs to be fixed. Communism should be talked about more often, as it also represents everything embarrassing about human nature, but what are you going to do? It's used symbolically, not politically.

3. What, in your opinion, do "these people" have to hide? What are you implying here?

BS.

No.

To ask "Who killed Anne Frank?" is to understate the matter somewhat. Many people, due to their origin; political or religious convictions; or sexual orientation, had their lives destroyed as a result of Nazism.

• More than 60% of the Jews in Europe died through Nazi actions
• Occupied Poland: 3 million Christian deaths in addition to some 3 million Polish Jews
• 3.3 million Soviet POWs died in German custody
• Soviet civilian deaths: 5 million Russian, 3 million Ukrainian and 1.5 million Belarusian
• Between one-quarter and one-half of the Romani population (i.e. the Gypsies) killed, upwards of 220,000 people
• At least 75,000 mentally and physically disabled people executed
• People of African and Asian origin resident in Germany executed
• Black POWs (e.g. French colonial troops) executed
• Between 5,000 and 15,000 homosexuals in Germany and occupied territories castrated, imprisoned &/or killed
• Anti-Nazi political activists and captured WWII resistance fighters, many summarily executed
• Communists, socialists and anarchists in Germany and occupied territories detained or executed
• An estimated 80,000 to 200,000 Freemasons murdered
• Thousands of "enemy nationals," mostly diplomats, interned or executed
• Dissident Catholic and Protestant clergy persecuted or killed
• An estimated 2,000 Jehovah's Witnesses died in concentration camps
• Social "undesirables" – prostitutes, vagrants, alcoholics, drug addicts, open dissidents, pacifists, draft resisters, and common criminals – often imprisoned in concentration camps
• Rich persons holding seditious liberal views and members of women's rights groups targeted for persecution

To attempt to put the blame for this on one single person, or even a small cabal of people, seems disingenuous at best.

Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.

Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.

Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.

Als sie die Juden holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Jude.

Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.

Translation:
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

— attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)