Who will McCain choose for vice president?

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I have a coworker, he's in another department now. He was the only person I hid my sexuality from, so when he found out 6 months later that I wasn't straight, his response was "I'm glad you didn't tell me, because I never would have talked to you otherwise."

Republican's aren't willing to contemplate changing. The only time they shift an inch is when someone shoves it down their throat. A relative coming out, a gay boss, actually meeting a transsexual (that is, assuming they actually *know* they met a transsexual). An Atheist who still has a moral code, anyone who challenges their preconceptions of what is a normal life.

Not every Republican will get that personal epiphany. For every one like your father, there are 2 who will disown their gay child and throw them out on the street. Dick Cheney cares more about maintaining the economical status quo then whether or not his own daughter shares the same rights as the majority of society.

Agree wholeheartedly. No use wasting perfectly good ASCII text on this one.

unclebeer -

I dare you to refute my arguements.

Please, I could use a challenging debate.

Tell me why I'm wrong.

Fair enough

Im sorry to join in on this little debate, but not all republicans are evil. I dont know what your examples are, but Ron Paul is not an evil man. He is my example.. If he proved o be evil then I would be more careful in my judgements.. But let us discuss why he is evil.

He wants to get rid of the income tax, which doesnt pay for ANYTHING accept debt to the federal bank reserve.

... He wants to get rid of the Federal Bank Reserve..

He wants to abolish the FBI, CIA, and NSA, which were all created for pretty bleak and unconstitutional causes..

He wants to shrink the government and stop an imaginary 'War on Terror'..

He wants to keep the government out of world affairs..



Dont you think he has a good heart?.. dont you think his motives are genuine?. He's a republican, but who gives a f**k what he is!.. it's a title that doesnt deserve speculation any more than his views on society and plans for peace in the world. But peace is too much to ask from people that have their mind only bent on FEAR and WAR.. the government isnt here to keep people off the streets, but if someone needs help a republic government is able to rise to the occasion, whereas this complex government now is unable to do ANYthing because they dont even KNOW what they are doing to begin with.. ever since the government got involved in the affairs of its people, the middle class slowly got dumped.. ever since they gave us the RIGHT to own a car, or a house or peice of property..

what happened to the days where people didnt expect the government to take care of them?.. do you feel that the government does these things?.. People should learn to take care of themself like how it once was, and then they will realise there are helpful people in the world.. there is no formula for everything and that is the point of the republic. A stable market economy.. let intelligent people come up with solutions to problems and not rely purely on the damn government to make our decisions..

Thanks, no. You've sufficiently proven yourself a fool (poor spelling notwithstanding...).

A transexual lesbian? Isn't that the same as a heterosexual male crossdresser?

Flutter, you say everything I wish I had the gaul to say!

i don't know probably a woman

Gender identity and Sexuality are two separate parts of the psyche.

I identify as a female, I am in the beginning stages of transition.

I will eventually have SRS to bring my body in line with my gender identity.

That is to reconcile who I am with my own body.

Who I am attracted to sexually is unrelated to my own personal gender.

So, yes, I am a lesbian who temporarily still has a penis, not a heterosexual male crossdresser. And this is exactly the marginalization that I am confronted with on a daily basis.

Proven a fool how? because I didn't spell check?

Refute my points, or admit their truth.

What does he propose we replace the income tax with? Use taxes?

Use tax places a heavier burden upon the middle and lower classes then does a graduated income tax system. So yes, it is a form of trickle down economics.

The libertarians have been overrun by republicans who just don't want to pay for any of the necessary infrastructure to maintain society at it's current level. At least they're honest idiots.

We have three possible tax models, trickle down, graduated, and flat tax.

The trickle down theory is that if you place less of a tax burden on the rich and the corporations, it will generate more business, which stimulates the economy. The inherit problem with this theory is that the money doesn't trickle down, because the jobs go offshore to cheaper labor.

The flat tax is a fine theory, but in practical application, it places a much larger strain on the poor family then it does on the rich family.

A graduated tax system asks those who are wealthier to support the burden of the tax load. Who benefits most from an orderly society? The wealthy in their yachts with their servants and their trust funds, or the single mother in subsidized housing attempting to keep her three kids out of gangs, and still going to a school who isn't interested in teaching them? If we remove the structure of society, will the wealthy still have their yachts? Will they still have their wealth and their privileged position within society? Will that single mothers life change significantly? Who's existence will experience the more fundamental shift by the breakdown of society? The Rich will, and so it is in their best interest, despite what they may think, and it is their responsibility to shoulder the burden of funding the majority of a society that maintains them in their privileged position. By providing for decent education, housing, food, and healthcare for everyone in a society, the wealthy promote a more enlightened and stable society where they can continue their peaceful dominance. If you don't educate the masses, we fall behind, and we lose the edge that makes us competitive in a global market, if you don't give them healthcare, you lose productivity from them, and you place a greater strain on society as a whole and on their family units due to lost wages and early avoidable deaths.

It is the responsibility of the rich to pay for society, and republicans and libertarians both attempt to circumvent this responsibility for their own personal benefit. So yes, they are looting America, they're looting the future of you and me.

I'm confused (albeit not as confused as you seem to be)...

In what way are you different from a heterosexual male crossdresser?

I mean, aside from your plan to mutilate yourself...

To be quick and to the point, because you've become what you claim to hate, an intolerant bigot.

Ding ding ding... that was the correct answer!

Bob, tell em what they've won...

Indeed.

Flutter - when (and if) you ever decide to begin thinking rationally in the slightest, perhaps someone will actually bother to try and change your erroneous beliefs. Until then, it's just a waste of time.

You know, I once spent two weeks arguing with a heroin addict who rather reminds me of you, in that she was dead-set on believing foolish things and sweeping them across to everyone. Different ideas, but same problems internally. I presented fact after fact after fact only to be met with jumbled nonsense from someone who was too immature to consider anything outside of her tiny box. Guess where it got me? No where. So where will trying to hold a reasonable conversation about facts with you most likely get me? No where.