911 issue: I wonder, what do majority of American ppl

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LeKiwi
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28 Aug 2008, 5:29 pm

If the government did it, then don't you think perhaps it wasn't terrorists/zombies/aliens who hijacked the planes, but people from the govt themselves? Think about it...


I still don't know if the government did necessarily initiate the whole thing. What I do know is that someone on the inside at the very least knew about it in advance and helped facilitate it. And that back in March 01 they were planning to invade Afghanistan in the first week of October but didn't yet have a motive to do so.


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28 Aug 2008, 5:34 pm

LeKiwi wrote:
terrorists/zombies/aliens


Interesting that you consider the people who call America "the great Satan" and cry "death to America!" to be as realistic as zombies and aliens. Do you actually believe this?



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28 Aug 2008, 5:37 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
LeKiwi wrote:
terrorists/zombies/aliens


Interesting that you consider the people who call America "the great Satan" and cry "death to America!" to be as realistic as zombies and aliens. Do you actually believe this?



I'm sure there are people out there who cry 'death to America', probably because America[n military on orders of govt] has covered their country with depleted uranium, bombed their homes, raped their wives and killed their children. I just don't believe they had a great deal to do with the events of September 11th 2001.

(And I do believe in aliens, though that's a whole different thread altogether... ;) ).


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28 Aug 2008, 5:43 pm

Raped their wives? WTF?

That's a sure way to get a dishonorable discharge from the military and never be able to find work again, because then you'd be a sex offender.



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28 Aug 2008, 5:56 pm

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It was done by some VERY GREEDY rich people. Love of money is the root of all evil.

I know who ordered the controlled demolition of building 7,
who also got a lot of money from a "terrorism insurance policy" covering WTC.



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28 Aug 2008, 5:57 pm

Have a dig around and see what the independent journalists over there are reporting back. There's some seriously warped things going on that would have them discharged faster than they can say "get me outta here", but sadly not everyone in the military is there to protect the innocent and do their job with honour...


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28 Aug 2008, 6:08 pm

The government was behind it for sure.. and the government is a mafia government, with only one thing on their minds..
sure there's good people in the government, but you dont tell everybody..
heres a series I use to open peoples eyes a bit.. its at least 90 minutes but its a good series.

This is a series called Octopus 9-11
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ8Pd7wHWyQ
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuGTHnxH ... re=related
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdKWlrom ... re=related
4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4dt-UkeXsQ
5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uR9JUHw ... re=related
6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFx71Q4T ... re=related
7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrlvILGw ... re=related
8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzR48Wb4 ... re=related
9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWLv12s7 ... re=related
This series is great at opening your eyes to the media lies, and government evil.. and the kinds of tactics that they use.



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28 Aug 2008, 6:24 pm

ValMikeSmith wrote:
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If the government did it,


It was done by some VERY GREEDY rich people. Love of money is the root of all evil.

I know who ordered the controlled demolition of building 7,
who also got a lot of money from a "terrorism insurance policy" covering WTC.


Can you tell us who, or is that classified?



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28 Aug 2008, 6:27 pm

slowmutant wrote:
ValMikeSmith wrote:
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If the government did it,


It was done by some VERY GREEDY rich people. Love of money is the root of all evil.

I know who ordered the controlled demolition of building 7,
who also got a lot of money from a "terrorism insurance policy" covering WTC.


Can you tell us who, or is that classified?


What is the probability of that being classified and him knowing it?



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28 Aug 2008, 6:33 pm

Conspiracy theories don't interest me. I can be satisfied not having all the answers. Since this thread is rapidly becoming a conspiracy theory circle-jerk, I shall make my exit.



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28 Aug 2008, 6:43 pm

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28 Aug 2008, 6:45 pm

You just posted that twice on the same page.



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28 Aug 2008, 7:43 pm

Most Americans, as far as I can tell, believe the attacks were the work of the terrorists who took credit for it.

What that means politically, as for how we did and should have reacted, varies. If concept of it we could have prevented or mitigated it varies, and if someone in our government has fault in that regard varies. But most people believe it was the work of the terrorists.

I still see stickers that say, "we will never forget." It isn't talked about much, but it's there.

And when you travel outside of this country, return via airport immigration, and watch everyone who isn't from the US undergo eye scans etc just to visit, you know that our government has not forgotten.


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28 Aug 2008, 7:49 pm

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That's assuming they were elected, which they weren't. Well, they were, by a few, but certainly not the majority.

Explain then the explosions? The way the towers wouldn't have collapsed the way they did had the 'softened/melted steel' explanation been true? The way it would be physically impossible for those planes hitting at that level and with the maximum amount of fuel and at that speed to have brought the towers down? The way tower 7 fell in the exact same way without anything striking it?


You know, LeKiwi, I like you, but if you believe this stuff ...

My husband is a structural engineer. Buildings and how they stay up are his business. The structural engineers of this country study in detail every collapse. And they, as a group, seem to understand how the buildings fell, and are busy designing to mitigate that possibility, and aren't running around saying it must have been a conspiracy. Have I studied it? NO. I trust people like my husband to know what they are doing. I married one heck of a smart man.


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28 Aug 2008, 7:55 pm

Odd, isn't it?

911 Conspiracy Theorists scoff at structural engineers, who are experts in the field of what keeps buildings up and what brings them down, but then they'll pounce on Photoshopped images of "squibs" and "thermate"as "proof" of their claims.

No ... not odd ... pathetic.

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28 Aug 2008, 8:12 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
LeKiwi wrote:
That's assuming they were elected, which they weren't. Well, they were, by a few, but certainly not the majority.

Explain then the explosions? The way the towers wouldn't have collapsed the way they did had the 'softened/melted steel' explanation been true? The way it would be physically impossible for those planes hitting at that level and with the maximum amount of fuel and at that speed to have brought the towers down? The way tower 7 fell in the exact same way without anything striking it?


You know, LeKiwi, I like you, but if you believe this stuff ...

My husband is a structural engineer. Buildings and how they stay up are his business. The structural engineers of this country study in detail every collapse. And they, as a group, seem to understand how the buildings fell, and are busy designing to mitigate that possibility, and aren't running around saying it must have been a conspiracy. Have I studied it? NO. I trust people like my husband to know what they are doing. I married one heck of a smart man.

But... But... It's physically impossible. :cyclopsani:


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