Re-Incarnation

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The spoiled pet has the best life of all!! !

Ah... I missed all the action. I must get internet at home someday soon.

Science and belief don't have to be two opposing things. For instance, the Puranas of ancient India talk about endless universes expanding and contracting on a membrane - and that was 5,000 years ago. Strange how it should now be "discovered" as the most modern theory of universal existence.

I just don't rate modern science as "having all the answers" any more than "belief" does. But I prefer belief systems that are more scientific, and these do exist, especially in the east. And it's true, there's no evidence in nature for creation or destruction of energy - only for transformation, and most eastern philosophical systems hold to that.

I like that someone quoted Bhagavad Gita - that's a great book about re-incarnation. Krishna's got it sussed.

Krishna says, "I am the taste in water, the sound of the Vedic Om ..."

I own a copy of the Gita, and it is a beautiful book with beautiful ink, beautiful typesetting a and font. The text in this edition is rust-coloured instead of the usual black. For truth, the Bhagavad Gita could go toe-to-toe with any science textbook on the planet.

Oh yes, I most certainly believe in reincarnation! I believe that we go to a sort of "resting place" (for lack of a better term) on the non physical plane, when we die. we Then write up the blue print to our next life, and eventually are reincarnated.

Gender raises another question I find interesting.

Whatever that essence is that survives the death of the biological body and moves on to inhabit another body, some traditions call it a spirit or a soul, can it take up life in a body of either gender, or is it inherently male or female?

Following the Buddhist tradition of not believing in an actual soul, the Tibetan Book of the Dead refers to it as "a bundle of karmic tendencies."

So this time around I'm an aspie male. I wonder about how this came about, or if maybe there's some kind of reason.

There is always a reason.

Obviously, this isn't a question that can be factually resolved either way, just something to wonder about.

But what if maybe there isn't a reason, that events are simply unfolding, like the contemporary view of biological evolution. It's noted with caution that "contemporary scientific views" have a habit of being replaced by other views, but just as an illustration.

Like the Second World War was caused by the rise of the nazi party, which was caused by the terms of Germany's surrender after the First World War, and the worldwide economic depression of the thirties, and the appearance of somebody with the personal charm of Adolph Hitler.

And each of these things had preceding causes.

A cause isn't necessarily the same as a reason. Things can have causes without necessarily having reasons.

How did I come to be in this body, in these circumstances? Is it just a "how" question, or is there also a "why."

There's a "how" and a "why" for all phenomena, even if the "how" and "why" are not immediately apparent. Scientific and philosophy notions of causality agree here.

Do any of you who believe in reincarnation believe that you can be incarnated between planets, such as an alien life form somewhere in the universe? It seems whenever I hear about reincarnation I never hear about people's past lives on the planet Kytchecht as a doubou mamakk.

yes I believe and in trances I heard it

Not at all, since there is no verifiable evidence for it.


That reincarnation is a fallacy.

Evidence, please.

a. There is no evidence for the existance of reincarnation.
b. Many people believe in it anyway.

:: Belief in reincarnation is based on a lack of evidence that would contradict the belief. This is the Fallacy of Appeal to Ignorance, which is an argument for a proposition on the sole basis of a lack of evidence against it. If there is positive evidence for the conclusion, then of course we have other reasons for accepting it, but a lack of evidence by itself is no evidence at all.

Thus, the belief in reincarnation is fallacious.

Last edited by Fnord on 19 Sep 2008, 12:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.

It's all about what you choose to be believe in, brother.

Then why do people choose to believe in something for which there is no verifiable evidence, instead of things for which there is not only verifiable evidence, but repeatably verifiable evidence?

I dunno. Maybe we should all give up and think exactly what you think.