kraftiekortie wrote:
People have been believing there will be revolutions, resurrections, etc. for years.
Frankly, I don't believe most people are committed enough, or their desire to make sacrifices is enough, for there to be an insurrection/revolution of that nature in the United States.
Frankly, I don't believe most people are committed enough, or their desire to make sacrifices is enough, for there to be an insurrection/revolution of that nature in the United States.
Did you see Nazis marching in the streets and the violence at Charlottesville coming?
kraftiekortie wrote:
People have been believing there will be revolutions, resurrections, etc. for years.
Frankly, I don't believe most people are committed enough, or their desire to make sacrifices is enough, for there to be an insurrection/revolution of that nature in the United States.
Frankly, I don't believe most people are committed enough, or their desire to make sacrifices is enough, for there to be an insurrection/revolution of that nature in the United States.
Maybe not now but things always change over time.
And history teaches us that every empire falls apart eventually. Ours isn't going to be any different.
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Spooky_Mulder wrote:
sly279 wrote:
All my friends are in the military or veterans. They would absolutely side with trump over the left any day. So go ahead rise up and try to remove trump with force don’t expect the military to side with you
Nobody's talking about removing Trump by force. Impeachment is not by force. The right continues to threaten to use force if he's impeached.
I do not see Trump leaving voluntarily be it after the impeachment and conviction or losing the 2020 election. If he is impeached he will claim deep state, if he loses he will claim the election was rigged.
The images of him being physically removed from the White House would be a very dangerous thing.
On the other hand, if there is no blue wave or especially if Trump is reelected the left will say the election was rigged by the Russians. Do they get permanently depressed over the result of an election they thought was a sure thing again going bad on them again or do you have something resembling France 1968 where many middle and working class people joined the "radicals"?
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TW1ZTY wrote:
Just for the record I don't actually want a war within our own country to happen even though I know I'm the one who brought this up.
I'm really starting to feel depressed just thinking about the possibility of it ever happening.
I'm really starting to feel depressed just thinking about the possibility of it ever happening.
If it happens it’ll happen nothing we can do about it. I have guns and gear and will side up with the side of the constitution. Which means the right as unfortunately the left is hell bent on repealing the bill of rights and going all nazi government style.
kraftiekortie wrote:
People have been believing there will be revolutions, resurrections, etc. for years.
Frankly, I don't believe most people are committed enough, or their desire to make sacrifices is enough, for there to be an insurrection/revolution of that nature in the United States.
Frankly, I don't believe most people are committed enough, or their desire to make sacrifices is enough, for there to be an insurrection/revolution of that nature in the United States.
The current growing divide between the rich and poor can’t continue forever without the poor rising up eventually.
The USA unless we do something will have a French Revolution and remove the rich. I hope it’s hangings as I don’t want to see peoples heads cut off.
Eventually the poor will have nothing left to lose and way too much to gain.
Mean when most the population is homeless why wouldn’t they rise up? We already have tons of empty houses cause the rich are selfish and most people are paid crap and one paycheck away from homeless. People will only take so much. Every empire dies. Roman Empire fell, England fell, Soviet Union fell, Chinese empire fell, all fell from within. The USA too will fall one day. I don’t see it being thousands of years.
sly279 wrote:
You’re never going to get an impeachment give up. It’s a pipe dream if that’s stupid lady who says it for attention. You’d need 60% of the senate to impeach him and he hasn’t done anything wrong.
Only the House impeaches.
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sly279 wrote:
nazi government style.
Nazi style government = attacking/killing minorities, forcing women to work in the home - not allowing them to get abortions due to believing it was their duty to populate the homeland, fearing that the country will be brought down "alien (foreign) blood" (immigrants), and aiming for a country rule where white/straight/Christians reign supreme.
That isn't what the right's been aiming for?
Could'a fooled me and most of the country's population as well as holocaust survivors.
That is - if the right wasn't broadcasting it out in the open for everyone to see.
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TW1ZTY wrote:
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The USA unless we do something will have a French Revolution and remove the rich. I hope it’s hangings as I don’t want to see peoples heads cut off.
So basically you'd rather see people suffer from strangling to death than have a quick and relatively painless death?
Hanging can be quick
Having your head cut off is gruesome and it’s said you live for while after and see your headless body as the last thing you see and then there’s times where it only cuts half your neck and your head dangles and you die slowly and pain, no execution is full proof. Most when done 100% correct and nothing goes wrong are suppose to be quick, the boxed hangings you talk about are bad but so are boxed other excutions.
Spooky_Mulder wrote:
sly279 wrote:
nazi government style.
Nazi style government = attacking/killing minorities, forcing women to work in the home - not allowing them to get abortions due to believing it was their duty to populate the homeland, fearing that the country will be brought down "alien (foreign) blood" (immigrants), and aiming for a country rule where white/straight/Christians reign supreme.
That isn't what the right's been aiming for?
Could'a fooled me and most of the country's population as well as holocaust survivors.
Don't forget trying to conquer the world and force people in other countries to convert to your way of life.
TW1ZTY wrote:
Don't forget trying to conquer the world and force people in other countries to convert to your way of life. 
"We're not Nazis! We just wave their flags around every chance we get at right-wing rallies and we're trying to get actual Nazis elected now as well, but we swear - we're not Nazis!"
NEO-NAZI Arthur Jones WINS REPUBLICAN NOMINATION for Illinois congressional seat
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/21/neo-naz ... seat-.html
Yeah... it kinda says a lot that Neo-Nazis are openly running as Republicans and are winning Republican votes.
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LoveNotHate wrote:
sly279 wrote:
You’re never going to get an impeachment give up. It’s a pipe dream if that’s stupid lady who says it for attention. You’d need 60% of the senate to impeach him and he hasn’t done anything wrong.
Only the House impeaches.
Article I, Section 3, Clause 6 grants to the Senate "the sole Power to try all Impeachment”
2/3 of the senate needs to vote to remove him which is ready for it? 67%
The dems need to get over 67% of the senate or sway republicans to remove him via impeachment. If the senate votes no he won’t be impeached
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sly279 wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
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The USA unless we do something will have a French Revolution and remove the rich. I hope it’s hangings as I don’t want to see peoples heads cut off.
So basically you'd rather see people suffer from strangling to death than have a quick and relatively painless death?
Hanging can be quick
Having your head cut off is gruesome and it’s said you live for while after and see your headless body as the last thing you see and then there’s times where it only cuts half your neck and your head dangles and you die slowly and pain, no execution is full proof. Most when done 100% correct and nothing goes wrong are suppose to be quick, the boxed hangings you talk about are bad but so are boxed other excutions.
Well there is a reason why we don't do hangings anymore. Hangings fail most if the time.
Besides we're not living in the 1800's anymore. We have more conventional methods of executing criminals that are proven to be more effective and painless.
If you ask me we should rely on the firing squad. Our guns are more technologically advanced nowadays and capable of killing a person faster than they used to be.
Spooky_Mulder wrote:
sly279 wrote:
nazi government style.
Nazi style government = attacking/killing minorities, forcing women to work in the home - not allowing them to get abortions due to believing it was their duty to populate the homeland, fearing that the country will be brought down "alien (foreign) blood" (immigrants), and aiming for a country rule where white/straight/Christians reign supreme.
That isn't what the right's been aiming for?
Could'a fooled me and most of the country's population as well as holocaust survivors.
He's one of those people who doesn't understand that the right will turn on him as soon as it has no use for him anymore, as being on the spectrum he's an "undesirable". White nationalists don't like "ret*ds", as they call people like us. They may find them useful for a while as long as they toe the militarized party line like Sly here, but they won't get to keep any personal power or autonomy (or their lives--hi there Nazi eugenics!) in a white nationalist state. I used to know a guy in high school who tried to bully me and others and for some reason thought he was a member of the local skinhead group even though he was also non-white. He used to tell immigrant students to go back to where they came from, meanwhile the skinhead guys in the community he idolized and considered himself a part of laughed at him behind his back but let him continue to think he was one of them because they found it amusing that he gave immigrants a hard time and that he couldn't figure out that they didn't want him because he wasn't white. They thought he was a hilarious fool, and the only person that didn't seem to notice their disdain was him. Despite the fact that he tried to bully me, I felt sorry for him because he was so misguided and angry at the wrong people.
TW1ZTY wrote:
sly279 wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
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The USA unless we do something will have a French Revolution and remove the rich. I hope it’s hangings as I don’t want to see peoples heads cut off.
So basically you'd rather see people suffer from strangling to death than have a quick and relatively painless death?
Hanging can be quick
Having your head cut off is gruesome and it’s said you live for while after and see your headless body as the last thing you see and then there’s times where it only cuts half your neck and your head dangles and you die slowly and pain, no execution is full proof. Most when done 100% correct and nothing goes wrong are suppose to be quick, the boxed hangings you talk about are bad but so are boxed other excutions.
Well there is a reason why we don't do hangings anymore. Hangings fail most if the time.
Besides we're not living in the 1800's anymore. We have more conventional methods of executing criminals that are proven to be more effective and painless.
If you ask me we should rely on the firing squad. Our guns are more technologically advanced nowadays and capable of killing a person faster than they used to be.
Some states still do and we hung sadam and boxed it from what I hear.
Also we hung all the nazies excuted.
Chemical execution can also be boxed and are you suggesting a angry mob is going somehow get ahold of the chemical(highly controlled by government), the machines and know how to properly use them? Now they just hang people as mobs tend to do, or beat and kick them to death, or drag them around town etc. as I’m talking about people rising up and executing the rich not the government who in this situation is gone and probably being exicuted.
Um no lol our modern guns are very much like they were in 1900s and just as likely to kill of proper shot placement but that’s not going be guaranteed instant death. Firing squads were so no one soldier near the pain of the killing. Usually one rifle has a live round and rest are blanks and the soldiers don’t know who’s.
Gun and bullet design hasn’t changed much since late 1800s except for hollow points. It’s still a piece of lead expelled by a powder. It’ll be that way until we event lazer guns. That’s why we don’t like gun control people they think modern guns are a early 2000s invention.
