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23 Oct 2022, 11:45 am

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Johnson claimed yesterday he had the 100, yet couldn't name them. Then today he is begging for more backers, then calls Mordaunt asking her to back out as he needs her backers :lol:

He hasn't even declared he is in the running yet, because if he can't get 100 he will claim he was never interested anyway


Bl00dy cheek. Why should Mordaunt drop out of the race to please him?

1. She doesn't look at all likely to win the contest
2. He's probably bribing her a very good place on his team
3. Her values have much in common with Boris' - e.g. displaying whatever political opinion looks the most likely to help her career at the time:
In 2018, Mordaunt, the then women and equalities minister, told MPs that "trans men are men, trans women are women" at the launch of a consultation on reforming the Gender Recognition Act. Several Conservative activists criticised Mordaunt "for her pro-trans stance" according to reports by the Daily Telegraph published on 8 July, 2022 the day after Boris Johnson's resignation as Conservative party leader. On the following day, shortly before she launched her bid for the leadership of the Conservative party, Mordaunt responded to the question "Do I know what a woman is?" by writing on Twitter: "I am biologically a woman. If I have a hysterectomy or mastectomy, I am still a woman. And I am legally a woman. Some people born male and who have been through the gender recognition process are also legally female. That DOES NOT mean they are biological women, like me." The Spectator noted Mordaunt's earlier stance on trans issues, and was critical of what it called her "cowardice" in changing her publicly stated views, being "willing to toss them overboard at her earliest convenience" during her leadership campaign.
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23 Oct 2022, 11:50 am

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I think Jerry Hall looked a bit better in this video (at 1:55 mark). :lol:


[sarcasm]Clearly not a woman who would do practically anything for money.[/sarcasm]



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23 Oct 2022, 3:36 pm

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Bl00dy cheek. Why should Mordaunt drop out of the race to please him?

1. She doesn't look at all likely to win the contest
2. He's probably bribing her a very good place on his team
3. Her values have much in common with Boris' - e.g. displaying whatever political opinion looks the most likely to help her career at the time:


But why SHOULD she drop out just because he says so? It's up to her, not him. And I hear she told him that.


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23 Oct 2022, 3:37 pm

So Boris Johnson has dropped out! :lol:

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The former prime minister said in a statement on Sunday night:

I believe I am well placed to deliver a Conservative victory in 2024 – and tonight I can confirm that I have cleared the very high hurdle of 102 nominations, including a proposer and a seconder, and I could put my nomination in tomorrow.

“There is a very good chance that I would be successful in the election with Conservative party members – and that I could indeed be back in Downing Street on Friday.

“But in the course of the last days I have sadly come to the conclusion that this would simply not be the right thing to do. You can’t govern effectively unless you have a united party in parliament.”

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That sounds like a complete lie doesn't it :lol:


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23 Oct 2022, 5:50 pm

KitLily wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
KitLily wrote:
Bl00dy cheek. Why should Mordaunt drop out of the race to please him?

1. She doesn't look at all likely to win the contest
2. He's probably bribing her a very good place on his team
3. Her values have much in common with Boris' - e.g. displaying whatever political opinion looks the most likely to help her career at the time:


But why SHOULD she drop out just because he says so? It's up to her, not him. And I hear she told him that.

Well, in moral terms of course she shouldn't. But she has no morals.



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23 Oct 2022, 6:05 pm

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So Boris Johnson has dropped out! :lol:

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The former prime minister said in a statement on Sunday night:

I believe I am well placed to deliver a Conservative victory in 2024 – and tonight I can confirm that I have cleared the very high hurdle of 102 nominations, including a proposer and a seconder, and I could put my nomination in tomorrow.

“There is a very good chance that I would be successful in the election with Conservative party members – and that I could indeed be back in Downing Street on Friday.

“But in the course of the last days I have sadly come to the conclusion that this would simply not be the right thing to do. You can’t govern effectively unless you have a united party in parliament.”

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That sounds like a complete lie doesn't it :lol:


That's a relief, though I expect the rest of the candidates are also horrible people.

Yes his statement of withdrawal stinks of dishonesty. I expect the truth is something like "I failed to bribe and con enough of the Tory elite to carry off my dirty trick."



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24 Oct 2022, 4:18 am

KitLily wrote:
So Boris Johnson has dropped out! :lol:

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The former prime minister said in a statement on Sunday night:

I believe I am well placed to deliver a Conservative victory in 2024 – and tonight I can confirm that I have cleared the very high hurdle of 102 nominations, including a proposer and a seconder, and I could put my nomination in tomorrow.

“There is a very good chance that I would be successful in the election with Conservative party members – and that I could indeed be back in Downing Street on Friday.

“But in the course of the last days I have sadly come to the conclusion that this would simply not be the right thing to do. You can’t govern effectively unless you have a united party in parliament.”

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That sounds like a complete lie doesn't it :lol:


"I believe I am well placed to deliver a Conservative victory in 2024"

What's the bet that we'll see Boris Johnson trying to regain his position as Tory leader and PM before the next UK election, once the economic situation has (presumably) stabilised?


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24 Oct 2022, 4:45 am

I sense that it is inevitable.



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24 Oct 2022, 6:16 am

To the surprise of no-one that obsequious, spineless rag the Daily Mail makes a toe-curling comment:

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A "gesture of wisdom, honour and statesmanship"? From Johnson? :lmao: Oh please...


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24 Oct 2022, 7:45 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
KitLily wrote:
So Boris Johnson has dropped out! :lol:

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The former prime minister said in a statement on Sunday night:

I believe I am well placed to deliver a Conservative victory in 2024 – and tonight I can confirm that I have cleared the very high hurdle of 102 nominations, including a proposer and a seconder, and I could put my nomination in tomorrow.

“There is a very good chance that I would be successful in the election with Conservative party members – and that I could indeed be back in Downing Street on Friday.

“But in the course of the last days I have sadly come to the conclusion that this would simply not be the right thing to do. You can’t govern effectively unless you have a united party in parliament.”

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That sounds like a complete lie doesn't it :lol:


That's a relief, though I expect the rest of the candidates are also horrible people.

Yes his statement of withdrawal stinks of dishonesty. I expect the truth is something like "I failed to bribe and con enough of the Tory elite to carry off my dirty trick."


Yes it is surely a lie. He probably didn't get enough backers.

What the hell is he going to do in 2024 though? He says he can take the Tories to victory then. OMFG.


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24 Oct 2022, 7:46 am

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"I believe I am well placed to deliver a Conservative victory in 2024"

What's the bet that we'll see Boris Johnson trying to regain his position as Tory leader and PM before the next UK election, once the economic situation has (presumably) stabilised?


Yes, we are stuck with the Tories forever it seems...


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24 Oct 2022, 8:26 am

New New PM: Sunak.


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24 Oct 2022, 8:45 am

Who they should have gone for in the first place. Not that he's brilliant. Just that he meets a certain basic level of competence that barely anyone else in the current Parliamentary Conservative Party does. Unfortunately for them (fortunately for the country, maybe) his dump stat is public relations.


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24 Oct 2022, 9:25 am

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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24 Oct 2022, 9:40 am

Let's just hope he has his s**t together. Parliamentary Democracy is so 20th Century though.


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24 Oct 2022, 9:59 am

Cornflake wrote:
To the surprise of no-one that obsequious, spineless rag the Daily Mail makes a toe-curling comment:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpspr ... c.png.webp

A "gesture of wisdom, honour and statesmanship"? From Johnson? :lmao: Oh please...


Well, I suppose there was an iota of wisdom (from the University of the Blindingly Obvious) in it - i.e. he managed to figure out that he couldn't get enough support. Honour and statesmanship? Absolutely none of course, never has been, never will be.

Mind you, at least they owned it as their own view, and a rich newspaper owner like anybody else is entitled to his opinion, though I don't see why he's entitled to inflict it on the public.

Here's a cunning bit of brainwashing from the Express:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpspr ... c.png.webp

The former Prime Minister conceded he would not be able to unite the party to "govern effectively" despite having enough support to reach the final poll of Conservative Party members.
Note the position of the quote marks. Boris' unsubstantiated claim of having the backing of over 100 MPs, stated as fact. Naughty, eh?