If a girl is raped and pregnant, should she keep the baby?

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We should all just walk away from Inuyasha. Any woman who values her autonomy would.

He is being moronic, and purposefully so.

He doesn't give a rat's ass about pregnancy because it can never happen to him.

Talk about being forced to donate blood.... Watch out! That COULD happen to HIM... so of course it shouldn't be allowed. Donating the use of an organ? OMG, he has kidneys too! Maybe that could happen to HIM... again, NO WAY! NOT allowed.

He'll argue that he has a right to force women to bear children because he was once a zef himself. Because he has this dillusional idea that every aborted zef represents HIM and that any woman who has an abortion is effectively aborting HIM. And he wants to protect these mini-zef Inuyasha's... until they are born, at which point he could care less if they have access to proper medical care or nutrition or education or.... etc.

He even doesn't want to believe that diabetes doesn't run in your family. What gall! What ignorance! What asinine behaviour! Next he'll be telling me that my perineum did not, in fact, tear, and that my friend is not permanently incontinent.

He tells you that c-sections are perfectly safe (they are for him, because he's not at risk!) even though the risk of DEATH is 1 in 2,500... This is much higher than the 1 in 10,000 for vaginal births. And I can assure you, for those families that have lost a woman due to complications of childbirth (be they from a c-section or vaginal delivery or complications from the pregnancy itself) the impact is IMMENSE.

But, because it hasn't happened to anyone Inuyasha knows, it couldn't possibly be true. It is just a "smear campaign" against doctors and pro-life crusaders by "leftist feminists," and "quite frankly" the entire line of discussion is "way out of line"... with a lot of and Roe v. Wade and murder and zef's with brain function allowing them to pass AP courses while in the womb.

@Inuyasha, go find yourself a girl who will allow herself to die or be permanently maimed for your unborn zef and leave the rest of us alone.

Gee that explains the brain activity...



When it comes to moral issues and something that is a political hot button issue, there is good reason not to pay attention to what a medical book says, especially with the Political Correctness run rampent.



What crime has the child committed?



What makes you a person then?



It is still a child.



Dude, I know of people that have been trying to adopt a child. The idea that nobody wants these children is bull****. The idea that I'm against children being looked after is bull****, I just trust charities to help kids more than I trust the crackpots in Government.



I will when you stop acting like the child is not a human being.

Even if one considers the fetus a child (I don't), in the case of rape the child was forced into the woman against her will. She has the right to get rid of this unwanted and life threatening burden.

Consider: maybe the women does not want any children as this juncture. Should she be forced to carry a child that was placed in her body by force and violence? Is that just?

ruveyn

My sister-in-law, who carried my niece to term a year and a half ago, was very clear that she considered what was in her uterus a potential, developing person, not an extant person. It was a planned, wanted pregnancy. She was even less willing than I am to consider the fetus a potentially thinking or dreaming being in the 3rd trimester than I am.

Being pregnant wrecks your body, not your brain.


I think 'state eugenic program' is pretty damn awful with or without involuntary terminations; however, the whole point of being "pro-choice" is that the woman herself chooses, not the state. The state shouldn't force a woman to terminate any more than it should force her to carry to term.

Translation:
I'm ignoring fistula and incontinence because I don't know what those words mean. I don't personally know anyone who was permanently harmed by diabetes during pregnancy, except my aunt who is at greater risk of diabetes now, but that doesn't count because she hasn't deveolped it yet and might have developed it anyway. Also, I'm apparently unaware that diabetes increases the risk of just about any problem you can think of, from blindness to heart attack to stroke to having one's extremities amputated due to poor blood flow.


Situation A: donate an unneeded organ (or extra blood) to another person in order to save that person's life, at minimal risk to your own life and minimal potential long-term consequences.
Situation B: Allow your organs to be subverted to another person for 9 months. The organs do not leave the woman's body but may be permanently damaged and unavailable for use, and the woman risks her life and future health.

Near exact equivalency.


Once again, you speak without knowing what your'e talkign about. Do you just guess, based on what you want to be true? Abortion, especially early abortion, is less risky to the woman's life by an order of magnitude and less risky to her health by a similar degree. Many of the dangers of pregnancy - ecclampsia, C-sections, prolapsed uterus, etc - occurr during the later stages of pregnancy and/or delivery.

It's pretty effing difficult to miss, 'yasha.

Has anyone ever subjected Inuyasha to a Turing test? I'm beginning to think that he wouldn't pass.

You stated that DNA alone made it a human being. It is decidedly not true. A fertilized egg is just a bunch of cell with no 'brain activity'.

Your brain activity stuff has been dealt with in the past. There are no censorial centers until the 26-th week. As far as I know, in places where Abortion is legal it is legal until around the 10-th week.



Yes, Inuyasha, when your political biases affect your own judgements so much that it derail you from reality that much that you have to deny it. Medical books become a problem for you.




What child? I thought we were talking about abortion...





For starters, I have been born.



No. Stop using wrong terminology only because you think it has any effect in the discussion. It does not impress us.


Oh yeah "Charities and other people" let anyone but Inuyasha take responsibility. Sounds great, for you.





Inuyasha has in the last 400 past times used the argument IT IS A HUMAN BEING! Yet he was never (and I repeat never) able to get close to begin to give actual evidence to support this assertion. The best he has is electrical pulses inside a disconnected brain which he eagerly calls brain activity.

If that's brain activity. Bunnies have more 'brain activity" than that. It is legal to kill bunnies.

Agreed. I think I'm going to just start ignoring him. He expects pro-choicers to play by the rules of debate, but then refuses to do so himself. He ignores relevant facts when he feels like it, and when you make pertinent analogies he simply parrots the phrase 'false equivalency' because the procedures are not physically identical.

THANK YOU!

How the hell do you miss diabetes? You constantly need to drink water, you constantly need to pee, you feel weak and tired all the time, you feel dizzy, at least those were my sister's symptoms. And that's just when you're developing the disease. If left alone it kind of tends to put you in a coma...

Actually, mechanicalgirl39 I'm still a virgin, I practice abstinence, I'm not ready to handle having kids, so I'm not going to run around having sex with women. I'm one of those old fashioned people that believe in waiting until one is married.

As for the diabetes comments, yeah I know what diabetes is, and I'm glad that I don't have it. That said, I know people that do have diabetes and it's only the end of the world if you let it be the end of the world.

It doesn't make it okay to force a woman into it.

And what do you intend to do if your proposed bride insists upon a demonstration of the power of your enchanted rod prior to the nuptials? Run for the hills?

What about people who don't wish to get married? It's not for everyone.

1. To expect everyone to practice abstinece is UNREALISTIC.
2. You are forgetting one important scenario you know, RAPE!
3. It happens that a woman who is not ready to have kids is raped, and you claim that you are not ready to have kids hence you don't have sex, and the issue gets into forced sex, see the problem on your justification? (I don't expect you to see it though)
4. If a woman happens to desire a child,, in the idealistic scenario, you are willing to DESTROY that, not that you actually can though, given that abortion is legal, wether you agree with it or not, is meaningless,, so what should they care about what Inuyasha thinks anyway?

He may practice abstinence for a convenient reason.

Neither is coitus apparently.