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24 Oct 2022, 10:11 am

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What the hell is he going to do in 2024 though? He says he can take the Tories to victory then. OMFG.

Trump 2024, Boris 2024......it's like that Dracula sequel film where you thought he was dead but then some brainwashed twit goes and takes the stake out of his heart. Only we're getting it in stereo.

They both got Covid because of their own recklessness. I wonder what the world would be like now if they'd both died of it? Both old, unhealthy overweight men. Odd they survived. Almost as if they did a deal with Satan.



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24 Oct 2022, 10:16 am

Deep down one gets the feeling that the media want to govern and do not want political parties getting in their way, so whoever is in the media have to look for anything they can about whoever is in so they can use their found knowledge against them. While some media representitives do not do that and are more decent people, but it only takes one to find something and seemingly everyone jumps in and it has got to stop.

We need to remember that no single person is perfect. We need to remember that it is US, the public that have voted our representitive party in, and that party has voted their leader in. We need to respect that.
We should NOT look at their personal issues. We should rather look at their ability to govern and do a good job.

This pettiness and public weakness in pouncing on every wrong word they say or every wrong thing they do must STOP as we NEED STRONG LEADERSHIP OR WE ARE ALL GOING DOWN.


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24 Oct 2022, 11:22 am

Many Johnson backers are now agitating for a general election, if some newspaper reports are to be believed. Not clear whether Johnson himself is behind this, but he could well be.

Can't see Sunak calling one in the foreseeable future - he'd be crazy to do so.


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24 Oct 2022, 11:53 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
KitLily wrote:
What the hell is he going to do in 2024 though? He says he can take the Tories to victory then. OMFG.

Trump 2024, Boris 2024......it's like that Dracula sequel film where you thought he was dead but then some brainwashed twit goes and takes the stake out of his heart. Only we're getting it in stereo.

They both got Covid because of their own recklessness. I wonder what the world would be like now if they'd both died of it? Both old, unhealthy overweight men. Odd they survived. Almost as if they did a deal with Satan.


It is indeed like an old horror film! We think the monster is dead...but he leaps out on us again! aaaaarghh!

I'm not sure how they survived covid, it was very odd. Unless they never got it in the first place...


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24 Oct 2022, 11:56 am

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We need to remember that no single person is perfect. We need to remember that it is US, the public that have voted our representitive party in, and that party has voted their leader in. We need to respect that.
We should NOT look at their personal issues. We should rather look at their ability to govern and do a good job.

This pettiness and public weakness in pouncing on every wrong word they say or every wrong thing they do must STOP as we NEED STRONG LEADERSHIP OR WE ARE ALL GOING DOWN.


If we, the public, ever get the chance to vote again, that is. We haven't voted in a leader before they were in the job for 6 years now. Each Prime Minister has been put in the job, then called an election when they felt strong. That's not the right way round. We should vote, THEN they get the job.


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24 Oct 2022, 12:59 pm

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Many Johnson backers are now agitating for a general election, if some newspaper reports are to be believed. Not clear whether Johnson himself is behind this, but he could well be.

If they call an election, Labour will get in, inherit an unfixable economic mess, and screw up. Starmer has already disenfranchised half his party (the socialist half), so it won't be long before the split in the ranks begins to show, and then it'll only be a matter of time before Labour has to call an election, having demonstrated they're as collectively incompetent as the Tories were. Cue Boris on his shining white charger. So yes, I can see why his supporters might want an election now.
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Can't see Sunak calling one in the foreseeable future - he'd be crazy to do so.

He certainly won't want to do that when he's only just got the job. But if he can't control his party, what happens then? Another change of leader? We're living in very strange times.



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24 Oct 2022, 3:22 pm

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Cue Boris on his shining white charger.
DeepHour wrote:
Can't see Sunak calling one in the foreseeable future - he'd be crazy to do so.

He certainly won't want to do that when he's only just got the job. But if he can't control his party, what happens then? Another change of leader? We're living in very strange times.


What a funny image about the charger.

Sunak has already said he won't call an election.

What I am looking forward to is what the King will say to Rishi Sunak. 'Not another one. Dear oh dear.' 'How long are you going to last?' 'So you are richer than I am?' etc.

:lol: :lol:


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24 Oct 2022, 8:49 pm

KitLily wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
Cue Boris on his shining white charger.
DeepHour wrote:
Can't see Sunak calling one in the foreseeable future - he'd be crazy to do so.

He certainly won't want to do that when he's only just got the job. But if he can't control his party, what happens then? Another change of leader? We're living in very strange times.


What a funny image about the charger.

Sunak has already said he won't call an election.

What I am looking forward to is what the King will say to Rishi Sunak. 'Not another one. Dear oh dear.' 'How long are you going to last?' 'So you are richer than I am?' etc.

:lol: :lol:

I'd love to know what the monarch and the PM say to each other in their secret meetings. In fact I'd love to know why they're secret at all.



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24 Oct 2022, 8:55 pm

I believe Queen Elizabeth was sometimes jocular with prime ministers.



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24 Oct 2022, 10:39 pm

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I believe Queen Elizabeth was sometimes jocular with prime ministers.

I read that Disraeli found Queen Victoria highly susceptible to flattery, which apparently he said he "used to lay on with a trowel."



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24 Oct 2022, 11:05 pm

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I believe Queen Elizabeth was sometimes jocular with prime ministers.



She is reputed to have got on very well with Harold Wilson (PM 1964-70 and 74-76) in particular. I bet she always made sure that Prince Philip wasn't around on these occasions - he might have had a few very choice words to say to some of the Prime Ministers, especially the Labour ones, lol.


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25 Oct 2022, 3:51 am

If this is true:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 09632.html
then I see how Johnson and Trump have in common much more than silly blond hair.
Like, a giant ego preventing any self-reflection.


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25 Oct 2022, 5:46 am

It just might be that they share the “ends justifies the means” sort of morality, which is dangerous because neither seem to be influenced by basic morality.



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25 Oct 2022, 8:16 am

magz wrote:
If this is true:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 09632.html
then I see how Johnson and Trump have in common much more than silly blond hair.
Like, a giant ego preventing any self-reflection.


I like that article. It's Iain Duncan-Smith snitching on Boris Johnson :lol: :lol:

If you want to see really silly blond hair on a politician, look up Michael Fabricant. Dear oh dear :lol:


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25 Oct 2022, 8:18 am

Apparently now lots of Tory members are leaving the Tory party to join Reform UK.

Supposedly because they weren't happy that they didn't get to vote on who the new PM would be and it was decided by the MPs.

In other words, they don't like the PM being a man of colour. :roll:


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25 Oct 2022, 9:09 am

Jacob Grease-Mogg, minister for the 1820's (aka "The Haunted Pencil") has resigned, so that's a huge plus.


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