Yes, some of the violence in the Bible was real to some extent, but it’s unlikely that a god was telling people to commit genocide, infanticide, etc. despite what many Bible passages demonstrate. It’s not just the violence itself that I found horrifying but, rather, that the violence was portrayed as right, moral, and, at times, pleasing to God.
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03 Jan 2024, 8:16 pm
TwilightPrincess wrote:
Yes, some of the violence in the Bible was real, but God wasn’t telling people to commit genocide, infanticide, etc. despite what many Bible passages demonstrate. It’s not just the violence itself that I found horrifying but, rather, that the violence was portrayed as right, moral, and something that God wants.
Okay.
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03 Jan 2024, 9:04 pm
TwilightPrincess wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
TwilightPrincess wrote:
Video game violence is bad. Reading about or seeing depictions of violence in the Bible is good.
It's funny, as a little kid the violence was the main appeal.
In the Bible or video games?
Violence in the Bible deeply disturbed me because I thought it was real. It probably wouldn’t have bothered me as much if I hadn’t thought that the Bible was divinely inspired and that God was condoning and encouraging violence.
Both, tbh.
I figured out pretty young that history was basically all about guys killing other guys because reasons. I also tended to see it the same as Greek and Germanic myths, once I was exposed to them (at Catholic school, ironically).
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It's just crazy to me that current history is still just guys killing other guys for the same reasons. We've not progressed beyond that, apparently. Well, most people have better morality than those in the time and places in which the Bible was written. Thank FSM!
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03 Jan 2024, 9:28 pm
TwilightPrincess wrote:
It's just crazy to me that current history is still just guys killing other guys for the same reasons. We've not progressed beyond that, apparently.
We're too stupid to be so smart.
_________________ The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
At least we aren't as dumb as God. Maybe there should be a thread titled: "God Being Dumb in Holy Books" for occasions when God is being dumb but not disturbing.
JK...mostly.
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Some context before we get into what this post is really about. Here is the original Garfielf video.
Here it is again, but with the script put through google translate in every language then translated back to English.
A commenter wrote this about the video above: This is a story of Garret and Jon, dictator of The City of Garmfield. Jon and Garret were once close friends, but as Jon's hunger for power continues, Garret becomes more skeptical until he finally snaps and gives Jon a rundown of what this totalitarianism has caused. Jon suggests they plan a treehouse like in their childhood, but Garret reminds Jon the food is trash. Jon is quick to blame this on his depression from being single and asks Garret why people like him and not their own leader, and he replies that he has the soul that Jon lost. The cat then decides to destroy Jon's greatest weapon; Odie, who can stop time. Jon warns Garret that Odie is the key to world conquest and that not even God could stop him. Garret says no god would allow the atrocities that have already happened, and that there was no god to begin with. Garret then shares his cynical point that democracy is no longer an option and there is no going back from all that Dictator Jon has done. Garret then realizes that he cannot let time go on like this. That he hates time itself for all it has changed and so he puts aside his own ego. Jon tries to win over Garret with nationalism and quotes, but Garret has already secretly established a voting system to unelect Jon. Jon tries to dispel the idea with metaphors, saying that this country's only good with the two of them. Garret says that children are starving. Jon says that Mexico tried this and they've lost their water. Garret says that starving children are Jon's fault. Jon tries once last time to win Garret over by saying that Hamberg was a terrible place before Jon divided it. Garret says 5. The people that wanted to vote out Jon were 5x more in number than the people wanting him to stay. Jon has a mental breakdown upon hearing this, saying that he's smarter than Shakespeare, his life is out of control, the government will collapse without him and that the cat is fat. He was later imprisoned for his crimes as Garret left the country, reminiscing with about his former friend.
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