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04 Oct 2018, 11:53 pm

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The left has such disdain for anyone that doesn’t tote their party line.


While Trump supporters continues to show bigotry towards anyone born different and expects the left (who are mostly minorities) to be tolerant of that. The reason I say Trump supporters is - despite how much Trumpsters want to deny it, there also many right-wingers just as appalled by their blatant bigotry and even called them out for it. To group these right-wingers in with Trump supporters would be doing them a disservice.

I also say Trump supporters because Trump lost a good number of people who originally voted for him due to waking up to his bigotry and are now calling him out for it. These people as well do not deserve to be lumped in.

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It’s quite concerning to me.


The blatant bigotry that Trump and many of his supporters show for minorities and their blindness or support for it is quite concerning for the majority of the country both left and right-wing alike.


You’re making false generalizations of a large group of people.



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04 Oct 2018, 11:55 pm

I do not care about offending Trump supporters. It's - how do his supporters define the way he speaks, I just "speak my mind" and "say things the way they are." Isn't anti-political-correctness part of what oh so many of his supporters wanted to usher in? Sorry, but I don't care about being politically correct in my view of snowflake Trumpsters ("snowflake" - a word popularized by Trump's supporters, btw).

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You’re making false generalizations of a large group of people.


Is Trump a bigot - yes or no.



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05 Oct 2018, 12:48 am

No he’s not.
Being against illegal immigration isn’t racism no matter how much you want it to be.



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05 Oct 2018, 12:57 am

Being against undocumented immigration isn't racism, it's part of the xenophobia that Trump and his supporters show and it is just one form of bigotry that Trump and his supporters show out of many (including racism, homophobia, transphobia, and Islamophobia as well).

Also nobody is buying the "we're just against undocumented immigration spiel" - not after birtherism against Obama AND Cruz nor also going after legal immigration.

Trump and Stephen Miller are now targeting legal immigrants. This will get uglier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pl ... dea3e677b0

How Trump is cracking down on legal immigrants – and how they are fighting back

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -challenge

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The blatant bigotry that Trump and many of his supporters show for minorities and their BLINDNESS or support for it is quite concerning.

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You’re making false generalizations of a large group of people.

Spooky_Mulder wrote:
Is Trump a bigot - yes or no.

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No he’s not.


I have yet to be shown by one Trump supporter that my assumption is a false one.

Thank you for answering the question.

You're welcome to deny it, but this is for everyone else to see and make up their own minds regarding.



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05 Oct 2018, 4:33 am

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Well seeing how he views all white people as the devil I bet he would OK with the idea. That's pretty much how genocide always starts you know. All it takes is a group of people who demonize another group of people just like when the Nazis decided that the Jews were all evil and needed to be destroyed.


Malcolm X's trip to Mecca:

An entry dated April 17, 1964, describes the crowds praying as being of "all colours, bowing in unison" and that watching them he was "not conscious of colour for the first time in my life". He added: "The whites don't seem white."

Other entries show how he then realised that it was not race but a person's intentions that mattered. "Out of the sudden darkness comes sudden light. My, how fortune can change," he wrote.

On his return to America he broke with the hardline Nation of Islam and formed the Organisation of Afro-American Unity, an act that many believe led to his assassination in New York on Feb 21, 1965.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... hange.html

I believe your view of X, forgive me if I'm wrong, comes more from how you've heard people around you speak of him. I can only imagine in places like Georgia, from how you've described it, someone like X would be supremely demonized. X never preached genocide and towards the end of his life he saw intent rather than race as the driving factor.

The difference being MLK was optimistic to a fault, whereas X didn't buy into optimism. MLK believed in trying to get oppressors to give in to their better angels, while X believed you have to be the change to stop oppression and rather than being thankful and relying on only hope - to focus on you and your people.


I guess you could be right. My dislike of him probably comes from what I have heard about him more than what he actually did as a person.



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05 Oct 2018, 12:22 pm

/\ So that poll isn't fake news? Okay, thanks for the go ahead to show information Trump supporters believe:

That poll also shows that 34% of white women strongly approve of the job that Trump is doing while 47% of white women strongly disapprove of the job Trump is doing. Including somewhat, that'd be 44% of white women approve whereas 52% of white women disapprove. Trump carried the votes of white women in 2016.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-de ... aseID=2575



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05 Oct 2018, 12:44 pm

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/\ So that poll isn't fake news? Okay, thanks for the go ahead to show information Trump supporters believe:

That poll also shows that 34% of white women strongly approve of the job that Trump is doing while 47% of white women strongly disapprove of the job Trump is doing. Including somewhat, that'd be 44% of white women approve whereas 52% of white women disapprove. Trump carried the votes of white women in 2016.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-de ... aseID=2575


Like I have stated before I actually know a lot of female Republicans who don't like Trump and decided not to vote for him. I mean what woman in her right mind wants to put up with a misogynist pig? I think the one thing both liberal and conservative women can agree on is that they don't like putting up with ***hole men who openly mock a woman's menstrual cycle on TV among other rude insults about a woman's body

Any woman who is actually ok with that must either a) hate other women or b) be a complete idiot.



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05 Oct 2018, 12:57 pm

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Any woman who is actually ok with that must either a) hate other women or b) be a complete idiot.


/\ Trump won the white woman vote in 2016. He lost big time with minority women. That said, the majority of white women have since changed their views.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls



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05 Oct 2018, 1:09 pm

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Any woman who is actually ok with that must either a) hate other women or b) be a complete idiot.


/\ Trump won the white woman vote in 2016. He lost big time with minority women. That said, the majority of white women have since changed their views.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

I dunno about the rest of the country I just know that me personally I know a lot of white females who admit that they can't stand him. :P



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05 Oct 2018, 3:22 pm

You guys enjoying your echo chamber?



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05 Oct 2018, 4:03 pm

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Spooky_Mulder wrote:
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Any woman who is actually ok with that must either a) hate other women or b) be a complete idiot.


/\ Trump won the white woman vote in 2016. He lost big time with minority women. That said, the majority of white women have since changed their views.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

I dunno about the rest of the country I just know that me personally I know a lot of white females who admit that they can't stand him. :P


Now they can't. They did before, they changed somewhere along the way. Unsure when though.



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05 Oct 2018, 4:11 pm

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You guys enjoying your echo chamber?

It seems like "Trump insecurity".

Post something positive about Trump, and you'll get a quick response that somehow it's wrong.

****Trump Insecurity Trigger Warning****
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51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... rack_oct05


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05 Oct 2018, 4:13 pm

Spooky_Mulder wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Spooky_Mulder wrote:
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Any woman who is actually ok with that must either a) hate other women or b) be a complete idiot.


/\ Trump won the white woman vote in 2016. He lost big time with minority women. That said, the majority of white women have since changed their views.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

I dunno about the rest of the country I just know that me personally I know a lot of white females who admit that they can't stand him. :P


Now they can't. They did before, they changed somewhere along the way. Unsure when though.


Well I bet the ones who voted for him were all Republicans. Like I said before most Republicans will vote for anybody in their own party and if they actually don't like the candidate they simply won't vote at all because they will refuse to vote for the other party.

I think Trump was well aware of this which is exactly why he ran for the Republican party. He knew they would all support him no matter what he said and the ones who didn't want to support him would still refuse to vote for the other side.

Come to think of it all of the Republicans I know who didn't like him I think they all chose to not vote for anybody at all. :|



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05 Oct 2018, 4:15 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
sly279 wrote:
You guys enjoying your echo chamber?

It seems like "Trump insecurity".

Post something positive about Trump, and you'll get a quick response that somehow it's wrong.

****Trump Insecurity Trigger Warning****
(this is gonna be painful)

51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... rack_oct05


Post something negative about Trump and you get verbally insulted and threatened by Trumpets and accused of bull**** that isn't true. :roll:

See it goes both ways.



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05 Oct 2018, 4:20 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
sly279 wrote:
You guys enjoying your echo chamber?

It seems like "Trump insecurity".

Post something positive about Trump, and you'll get a quick response that somehow it's wrong.

****Trump Insecurity Trigger Warning****
(this is gonna be painful)

51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... rack_oct05


Awww. Were poor baby snowflake Trumpsters triggered? :lol:

Given that Rasmussen leans right. I'll wait off celebrating until more polls are accounted for.

Besides, it's kinda hard taking rednecks seriously lol. :mrgreen: