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10 Aug 2007, 3:14 am

Flagg wrote:
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What a wonderful waste of server memory.

Why?



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10 Aug 2007, 3:17 am

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*sighs*

What a wonderful waste of server memory.


And your little comment wastes that little bit more lol. As does mine.


Ain't hypocrisy fun?

In the end it's a simple matter to me: Does government have the right to determine what is "right" and "wrong" among consenting adults (quotes added due to the relatvist nature of right and wrong) To me the answer is a resounding no. "What governs least is what governs best".



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10 Aug 2007, 3:17 am

Sopho wrote:
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What a wonderful waste of server memory.

Why?


almost 50 pages of commentary that all reads about the same.

It's like watching network TV.



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10 Aug 2007, 3:23 am

Mitch8817 wrote:
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*sighs*

What a wonderful waste of server memory.


And your little comment wastes that little bit more lol. As does mine.


I wanted to post this before but was too scared you people have given me the authority to do it now.

Ever time someone makes a new post in this thread Dr NT fires up another cigar and gives out an evil laugh because he knows we are wasting our time in pointless debates instead of improving our knowledge of useful things.



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10 Aug 2007, 3:26 am

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Mitch8817 wrote:
Flagg wrote:
*sighs*

What a wonderful waste of server memory.


And your little comment wastes that little bit more lol. As does mine.


I wanted to post this before but was too scared you people have given me the authority to do it now.

Ever time someone makes a new post in this thread Dr NT fires up another cigar and gives out an evil laugh because he knows we are wasting our time in pointless debates instead of improving our knowledge of useful things.


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10 Aug 2007, 3:41 am

Arguing distracts us from the pain and sadness Dr. NT hopes to inflict us with every day. At least we're all together, even if it is whilst arguing.


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10 Aug 2007, 5:35 am

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I believe Sedaka is the most sane if not the only one here on this thread, it's good she is here actually, to have someone who is good at debating with Ragtime.


There is some high-quality debate in this thread, but it's sure not coming from the homophobes. :)



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10 Aug 2007, 5:37 am

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I think some people choose to be gay, and by promoting homosexuality you will be only increasing the "gay community". Hence my arguement. Lack of promotion would not turn every gay straight, but it would have quite a measurable impact.

What you say is that by increasing the gay community, a lof of straight people will turn gay?

To a degree yes. And Bisexuals will choose to undertake a lot more homosexual relationships.

That's absolutly ridiculous, if what you claim is true, then it is already happening, wether gay people can legally get married or not.
You just say that because you find same sex relationships repulsive, c'mon admit it.

Is your so called economy stability more important than human rights?
Maybe you are thinking about an utopian society for yourself that hopefuly will never exist?

It is not a matter of human rights. But the economic implications are very real thank you very much.



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10 Aug 2007, 5:40 am

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homosexuality is awesome! it's an effective form of population control. the guys help keep areas nice (ever been in a gay neighborhood? some of the best kept houses and apartments around!).

Exactly, population curbing where it is counter productive. Not so cool then.




population curbing is bad? someone better tell china!

The chinese dont tend to take pensions for as long.



so what you're saying is we should die faster....not encourage less breeding.


let the living live and let the unborn die.

No I am saying if we are going to have a retirement we need to produce more children. I choose the children option.



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10 Aug 2007, 5:42 am

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I think some people choose to be gay, and by promoting homosexuality you will be only increasing the "gay community". Hence my arguement. Lack of promotion would not turn every gay straight, but it would have quite a measurable impact.

What you say is that by increasing the gay community, a lof of straight people will turn gay?

To a degree yes. And Bisexuals will choose to undertake a lot more homosexual relationships.

I doubt it. I'm sure it would have some affect on that in that some of them would have preferred to be in a gay relationship but felt it was easier to be in a straight relationship because of homophobia etc, but I don't think it would have that much of an effect because most people would be with the person they wanted to be with anyway. I doubt they'd suddenly turn round and decide to go after someone of the same sex now they can marry them.

Ok, the netherlands has a significantly higher rate of gay relationships than the UK. Now do you know what I am getting at?



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10 Aug 2007, 6:44 am

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Ok, the netherlands has a significantly higher rate of gay relationships than the UK. Now do you know what I am getting at?

They also have lower instances of teenage pregnancies and STDs among young people. We should be aiming for a society more like theirs if anything. And the economy there seems to be doing fine as well.



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10 Aug 2007, 6:56 am

Sopho wrote:
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Ok, the netherlands has a significantly higher rate of gay relationships than the UK. Now do you know what I am getting at?

They also have lower instances of teenage pregnancies and STDs among young people. We should be aiming for a society more like theirs if anything. And the economy there seems to be doing fine as well.

For now yes, but a smaller younger generation is going to bite them hard. As for their society, if you like it so much, go and live their, but i have a feeling you have missed something off that arguement. As for STDs, could any country have a worse sex education system than ours. Totally different matter.



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10 Aug 2007, 7:35 am

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It means, as used on 3rd Rock from the Sun, that things are going well for her.



i just reread this......

i apologize i missed it........... the context


i wont add any more to this unless you choose to not accept it graciously... as i do try to apologize and not be any more of an ass myself, than necessary.


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10 Aug 2007, 7:37 am

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Mitch8817 wrote:
Flagg wrote:
*sighs*

What a wonderful waste of server memory.


And your little comment wastes that little bit more lol. As does mine.


I wanted to post this before but was too scared you people have given me the authority to do it now.

Ever time someone makes a new post in this thread Dr NT fires up another cigar and gives out an evil laugh because he knows we are wasting our time in pointless debates instead of improving our knowledge of useful things.


well by all means.... show us you have something useful in that brain to contribute

i think at least a few ppl here have been waiting for that... not from yuo specifically... just on the thread

i do have a bit more work to do today and a friend's wedding to prepare for and attend.... so i wont be on as much today nor the rest of the weekend

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10 Aug 2007, 7:44 am

Sopho wrote:
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Ok, the netherlands has a significantly higher rate of gay relationships than the UK. Now do you know what I am getting at?

They also have lower instances of teenage pregnancies and STDs among young people. We should be aiming for a society more like theirs if anything. And the economy there seems to be doing fine as well.


he's missing the key point that the age structure of countries is not directly linked to the proportion of the gay comunity... but has more to do with the size of families in straight relationships (and gay... they do adopt you know) and jobs available within that country.

even if everyone never had another kid, it'd take a while (i know he doesnt think so) to even put a dent in changing the age structure of any country.

it's a weak argument.... look at emmigration in those countries and you'll see that's more of an issue than immigration or whatevr he wants to say....


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10 Aug 2007, 7:54 am

Sedaka wrote:
Sopho wrote:
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Ok, the netherlands has a significantly higher rate of gay relationships than the UK. Now do you know what I am getting at?

They also have lower instances of teenage pregnancies and STDs among young people. We should be aiming for a society more like theirs if anything. And the economy there seems to be doing fine as well.


he's missing the key point that the age structure of countries is not directly linked to the proportion of the gay comunity... but has more to do with the size of families in straight relationships (and gay... they do adopt you know) and jobs available within that country.

even if everyone never had another kid, it'd take a while (i know he doesnt think so) to even put a dent in changing the age structure of any country.

it's a weak argument.... look at emmigration in those countries and you'll see that's more of an issue than immigration or whatevr he wants to say....

But it is a factor in population sizes, so my case stands.