Roe v. Wade is history

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It is. What is wrong with these people?

Did you know about the Windrush Scandal, where elderly Black people who had lived in Britain for over 50 years, were deported to the countries they were born in, even though their families are in Britain and they had no relatives or memories of the countries they were born in. That was disgraceful. Probably still happening, too!

There is evidence that Trump's daughter Ivanka might have aborted a teenage pregnancy. As always there is a double standard. Kind of like during the middle ages when the clergy banned peasants from bonking except 9 months before having a child but they themselves kept mistresses.

The daughters and grandaughters of MAGAs are given the freedoms they are not supposed to have. The people they are trying to control are the grandaughters and daughters of the masses.

While I hope it never comes to that, I would not be surprised (or saddened) if some conservative politicians are assassinated over this.

I don't see how this is a double standard, and it's a free country, in the sense that someone's daughter is allowed to do whatever they want to do, regardless of what the father thinks, isn't it?

The truth of the matter is that many women have had abortions in secret, whether they are Republicans or Democrats. The same is true of men who may have supported a partner, or had a partner abort without telling them.

It's never been something that people can discuss openly because of social shaming and judgment. The stigma needs to end so that no one is embarrassed to talk about it if they need or want support.

Trump champions anti-abortion legislation but he obviously hides the fact his own daughter got an abortion. Dirty little secrets in the Trump family.

It reminds me of many conservative politicians in Australia who call for full fees at university, many of whom had children who went through free higher education.

That's a seperate issue. I am talking very specifically about low-life republicans who want to control other people's daughter's bodies when they did nothing when their own child did the same thing,

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It reminds me of the politicians and public figures who have sexually assaulted girls and women, but want to pretend they didn't, and that they don't have aborted children of their own.

Oh I see. It was said before that his daughter may have gotten one, but is there any actual proof?

Why does it matter?
That's her private business.

That might explain this action back in 2021
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021/0 ... te-support

I'm reminded one of the supreme court judges who voted to overturn Roe Vs Wade tried to impregnate somebody while drunk back in college

A lot of pro-life women have experienced it themselves.
They are responding to trauma, shame, fear, and secrecy.

Jane Roe herself became a pro-lifer after her landmark case.

That's because old white men who run society place the stigma on them

I can say from experience that women are judged just as harshly by other women.
This pressure is colourblind.

Many years ago I was watched a documentary on how the British East India company caused the Bengal famine in India. The historian was reading letters from British women who lived in Calcutta at the time and how they thought the natives starving was because they were nothing better than animals (their words) and when their corpses lining the laneways was blocking the horses the British women's association of Calcutta wrote to the governor of east India company requesting that Indians be segregated away from their protectorate so that they could conduct tea parties without the stench of dead bodies ruining their outdoor functions as they dressed in petticoats and frilly hats and parasols as 10 million Indians starved around them.

Why I'm telling this story is that historians blamed British women living in India in the 16th century for introducing legislation that began the idea that inferior people should not live in the same areas as civilised people (they also wanted to stop their menfolk from sleeping with local women). This was thought to be the forerunner of the introduction of laws in the American colonies leading to Jim Crow and to apartheid in South Africa.

Women get blamed for things they didn't actually do. I watched a program recently that completely debunked the story and it turns out the East India company came up with the idea without the need of their womenfolk writing letters.

If women also apply stigma on girls seeking an abortion its because they brainlessly follow their menfolk. It's always men who make the laws but also men who set the values of society.

There is always 'one rule for the upper classes/government and one rule for everyone else' in societies who tolerate this behaviour.

It is the same in Britain. It was apparently okay in 2020 for our government to have parties without covid restrictions during lockdown, while the law said that no one should be meeting in large groups, we should be wearing masks and social distancing. Because covid was spreading, people were dying alone and frightened, the NHS was overwhelmed etc. The public generally obeyed the laws but the government who set the laws disobeyed them because they apparently 'didn't apply to them.'

Sorry to go off on a tangent but it shows governments' double standard