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06 Sep 2011, 7:24 pm

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A prisoner still has to pay for his room and board at the prison. After all the deductions the rape victim will be lucky if she gets 1 dollar an hour.


Uh since when do they have to pay their room and board, if that were the case why is California's prisons in such sorry shape.



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06 Sep 2011, 7:24 pm

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But under a Conservative government a rape victim has no choice whether or not to marry the rapist because there is no welfare safety net.


Not necessarily true. People do have families for support, even victims of rape.

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06 Sep 2011, 7:28 pm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1489924/posts

Here is a story about a woman who got $9.60 per month in child support from her child's father, who made $32 per month in his prison job.

Is Inuyaha proposing that imprisoned convicts should be paid more than six dollars per hour?

My, that is mighty "Liberal" of you. Some might say "Socialistic."

Proposals like that will get you drummed out of the Republican Party so fast you won't know what hit you.

You had better go grovelling to Rush Limbaugh and apologize, right now.



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06 Sep 2011, 7:33 pm

pandabear wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1489924/posts

Here is a story about a woman who got $9.60 per month in child support from her child's father, who made $32 per month in his prison job.

Is Inuyaha proposing that imprisoned convicts should be paid more than six dollars per hour?

My, that is mighty "Liberal" of you. Some might say "Socialistic."

Proposals like that will get you drummed out of the Republican Party so fast you won't know what hit you.

You had better go grovelling to Rush Limbaugh and apologize, right now.


????

I'm not suggesting the prisoner get anything more per hour, I'm saying the money is going straight to the woman and the kid. We're talking about rape victims here, not a convict's girlfriend.



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06 Sep 2011, 7:35 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1489924/posts

Here is a story about a woman who got $9.60 per month in child support from her child's father, who made $32 per month in his prison job.

Is Inuyaha proposing that imprisoned convicts should be paid more than six dollars per hour?

My, that is mighty "Liberal" of you. Some might say "Socialistic."

Proposals like that will get you drummed out of the Republican Party so fast you won't know what hit you.

You had better go grovelling to Rush Limbaugh and apologize, right now.


????

I'm not suggesting the prisoner get anything more per hour, I'm saying the money is going straight to the woman and the kid. We're talking about rape victims here, not a convict's girlfriend.


So, all $32 per month go towards supporting the victims?

Okay, you can stay in the Republican party after all.



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06 Sep 2011, 7:41 pm

Wow 32 $ per month. That's a minifortune!

ALL THE ECONOMICAL PROBLEMS REGARDING RAPED-INDUCED PREGNANCY HAVE BEEN SOLVED.


Here's some Fridge Horror for you: Doesn't this system discourage the victim from denouncing the rapist to the authorities? In cases where the rapist is the only one who can pay for the child, it is more economically advantageous not to throw him to jail.


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06 Sep 2011, 7:43 pm

Yeah, but Inuyaha and his "Conservative", "Christian" buddies don't give a damn. As far as they are concerned, problem solved.

Just try to avoid tripping over the victims' corpses on the way to church.



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06 Sep 2011, 8:12 pm

8O How in the freakin' world is it possible that Inuyasha STILL doesn't understand that prisoners DON'T MAKE minimum wage?

He just keeps repeating that they won't see a dollar of what they make, it would all go the victims... ad naseum...

And, as thrilling as his math skills are (multiplying $6 * 40 hrs/week * 4 weeks/month), he still doesn't get it.

As pandabear pointed out, the victim would be lucky to see $32 a month. Here in Canada, that would be about 1 and half cans of powdered baby formula. WOW, lucky mother. Yep, that's almost enough to pay for day care... 8O

Also, FYI, mothers don't have time to sit around on the couch all day waiting for their welfare checks to come in. In our hypothetical scenario, she would have a baby to look after, which is a very difficult job. Not that Inuyasha respects how difficult it is. I guess it's just a "minor inconvenience" for 18 years or so.



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06 Sep 2011, 8:31 pm

cave_canem wrote:
Also, FYI, mothers don't have time to sit around on the couch all day waiting for their welfare checks to come in. In our hypothetical scenario, she would have a baby to look after, which is a very difficult job. Not that Inuyasha respects how difficult it is. I guess it's just a "minor inconvenience" for 18 years or so.


Inuyaha is a woman-hater, pure and simple. And, an ignorant one, at that. :evil:



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06 Sep 2011, 8:48 pm

cave_canem wrote:
Also, FYI, mothers don't have time to sit around on the couch all day waiting for their welfare checks to come in. In our hypothetical scenario, she would have a baby to look after, which is a very difficult job. Not that Inuyasha respects how difficult it is. I guess it's just a "minor inconvenience" for 18 years or so.


I do not think it is a lack of respect. I think it is a matter of being unable to relate to parents. I mean, you need to copulate before you can procreate no? Further, I assume that the hypothetical mother does not like Nascar...



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06 Sep 2011, 9:36 pm

PainInTheASpergerS wrote:
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Also, FYI, mothers don't have time to sit around on the couch all day waiting for their welfare checks to come in. In our hypothetical scenario, she would have a baby to look after, which is a very difficult job. Not that Inuyasha respects how difficult it is. I guess it's just a "minor inconvenience" for 18 years or so.


I do not think it is a lack of respect. I think it is a matter of being unable to relate to parents. I mean, you need to copulate before you can procreate no? Further, I assume that the hypothetical mother does not like Nascar...


Well, our Little Inuyasha has absolutely no intention of ever copulating.



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06 Sep 2011, 10:58 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
A prisoner still has to pay for his room and board at the prison. After all the deductions the rape victim will be lucky if she gets 1 dollar an hour.


Uh since when do they have to pay their room and board, if that were the case why is California's prisons in such sorry shape.

Our prisons are in sorry shape because we incarcerate more than one out of every hundred citizens.



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07 Sep 2011, 12:00 am

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8O How in the freakin' world is it possible that Inuyasha STILL doesn't understand that prisoners DON'T MAKE minimum wage?

He just keeps repeating that they won't see a dollar of what they make, it would all go the victims... ad naseum...

And, as thrilling as his math skills are (multiplying $6 * 40 hrs/week * 4 weeks/month), he still doesn't get it.

As pandabear pointed out, the victim would be lucky to see $32 a month. Here in Canada, that would be about 1 and half cans of powdered baby formula. WOW, lucky mother. Yep, that's almost enough to pay for day care... 8O

Also, FYI, mothers don't have time to sit around on the couch all day waiting for their welfare checks to come in. In our hypothetical scenario, she would have a baby to look after, which is a very difficult job. Not that Inuyasha respects how difficult it is. I guess it's just a "minor inconvenience" for 18 years or so.


Are you all on crack or something?

I'm being completely serious.


I said that the money should be going to the mother and the kid (or father and kid if the rapist was a woman), that means no deductions on the room and board, the rapist doesn't see 1 dime of that money.

Facts, truth, liberals care not for these things.



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07 Sep 2011, 7:01 am

Inuyasha wrote:
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If I saw a woman dying in a gutter the first thing I would do is call 911.



Yeah. You'd call 911 for the fetus she just tried to abort, not for her.


Can you read minds?

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Thank you for addressing this ruveyn because I probably would have said something derogatory in response to mechanicalgirl39.


See how much our Little Inuyasha hates women? If his "Conservative" colleague hadn't smacked this woman's face, then Inuyasha was prepared to beat her to a pulp with a crowbar.

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It's just the same old rhetoric. A bunch of hypocritical Pro-Lifers who insist that a rape victim must carry the child to term yet tell the rape victim to drop dead when she asks for welfare.


No, I would actually have the rapist stuck in prison for the rest of their life making license plates and the money of what the rapist would have made is going to support the rape victim and the child if she agrees to keep the child. If she doesn't then it gets split 50% going to her and 50% going to the kid.


Do you think that you could raise a child on $32 per month?

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I'm not saying the woman has to marry the rapist either.


That's mighty generous of you.



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07 Sep 2011, 9:09 am

Inuyasha wrote:
cave_canem wrote:
8O How in the freakin' world is it possible that Inuyasha STILL doesn't understand that prisoners DON'T MAKE minimum wage?

He just keeps repeating that they won't see a dollar of what they make, it would all go the victims... ad naseum...

And, as thrilling as his math skills are (multiplying $6 * 40 hrs/week * 4 weeks/month), he still doesn't get it.

As pandabear pointed out, the victim would be lucky to see $32 a month. Here in Canada, that would be about 1 and half cans of powdered baby formula. WOW, lucky mother. Yep, that's almost enough to pay for day care... 8O

Also, FYI, mothers don't have time to sit around on the couch all day waiting for their welfare checks to come in. In our hypothetical scenario, she would have a baby to look after, which is a very difficult job. Not that Inuyasha respects how difficult it is. I guess it's just a "minor inconvenience" for 18 years or so.


Are you all on crack or something?

I'm being completely serious.


I said that the money should be going to the mother and the kid (or father and kid if the rapist was a woman), that means no deductions on the room and board, the rapist doesn't see 1 dime of that money.

Facts, truth, liberals care not for these things.


The average prison wage is less than $1/hour before any deductions whatsoever. That doesn't even cover diapers. You are blatantly ignoring facts again.

I'm also still wondering about your opinion of a knocked-up 13 year old girl. Should she be forced with the choice of either carrying the baby to term or seeking the services of an illegal butcher?