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11 Feb 2017, 4:40 pm

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Warren seems to have the same mental condition as Rachel Dolezal.

Pretend to be a minority, so people will think you're a victim of [oppression, disadvantage ....].

However, since they desire that, the opposite is likely true.

It's possible that she really believed it if she was told by family.She should have done research as an adult before claiming it however.On one of the genealogical tv shows there was a woman who was sure she was part native,her family had always claimed it.But when the records and DNA were researched it was negative.


That's my take on it.


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11 Feb 2017, 4:47 pm

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I recall how years ago, the local news was doing something about the Kennedy assassination, and instead of showing actual footage of Lee Harvey Oswald in police custody when brought before the reporters, they had a clip of a reenactment of the scene from the movie, JFK, with actor Gary Oldman playing Oswald.


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11 Feb 2017, 4:52 pm

Please try to avoid using URL shorteners. They are security risks as they do not allow people to check a site's URL before being directed there. Just post the original links.



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11 Feb 2017, 5:00 pm

Please try to do something about the ads, that is causing a lot of my computer problems.


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11 Feb 2017, 5:05 pm

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Please try to avoid using URL shorteners. They are security risks as they do not allow people to check a site's URL before being directed there. Just post the original links.

What if they ARE the original links gotten off of tiny.iavian.net? I've been there, and that's just how those links, are.

When are you gonna change the all-cap title of that thread in the PPR index?






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11 Feb 2017, 5:36 pm

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You must know many people from many generations of your family.

My father's side is well-documented from the 18th century.

My mother's, though, is pretty mysterious from my great grandparents' generation and beyond. My maternal grandfather died in 1946, and I didn't know his name until recently.



haven't bumped into you recently. just saying, "hi."



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11 Feb 2017, 6:01 pm

Hi Cathylynn :D

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11 Feb 2017, 8:33 pm

There was a book published a few years ago called "Liberal Fascism." Many people on the left mocked the very idea. The election aftermath has pretty much shown the title was on target.

HATE MACHINE: How Liberals Became the Very Fascists They Always Warned Us About

Before the election, we were told that Trump was a Nazi and his jackbooted thugs would take over and put people into camps and treat them as nonhumans. That is, to do what was only done previously in America by Democrats.

Society is more divided now than at any time since the Civil War. People hate other people because of who they voted for. People are even choosing friends and breaking apart from family members based on who they supported in the last election. Beyond Facebook unfriending, relationships are impacted. It’s based on fear, disappointment, and hatred, and it seems to be all coming from one side.

Leftists said if Trump won, that there’d be violent mobs of hate, and intolerant fascists would try to silence those with whom they disagree. And they were right. It just was by a group of people from which they didn’t expect it: themselves.


http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2017/0 ... -very.html

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11 Feb 2017, 8:44 pm

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Is that Alec Baldwin?

Si! All the Yanquis look alike, so it's an understandable mistake.

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in ... d-of-trump

What makes you think its a mistake?I think it's on purpose as a joke.


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11 Feb 2017, 11:11 pm

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Any relations from the Kinderhook,Albany NY area?We may he distant cousins.lol Andries Hanses Scherp is my relation from that area.
There isn't a blood quantum for one of the Cherokee nations.A direct relative on Dawes roll is all you need to claim tribal recognition.


My earliest relative Jan Teunisen came to this country on a 4 year term of employment as a carpenter in the Manor of Rensselaerswyck in 1641 which I believe is very near or now part of Albany so who knows. Eventually settled and helped found the community of Minisink in Orange County New York. The Dutch part of my family were pretty prominent up until the end of the 19th century, there was family that fought on both sides of the Revolution some ending up in Canada but that didn't last long as just one generation later I guess a 'cousin' became one of the great traitors in Canadian history during the War of 1812. Now that's an American patriot! :P My mom did all this genealogy stuff 15+ years ago and visited all the sites, I love learning history and putting a personal connection on it makes it really fascinating stuff. Any Westbrook's or Decker's in your family?

This Jan Teunisen?
Jan Teunisen
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 1605
De Bilt, Utrecht, Nederland
Death: circa 1665 (52-68)
Albany, New York
Immediate Family:
Son of Teunis Reyersen and Jannetje Janse
Husband of Eychgan Bosch
Father of Dirck Teunisen
Brother of unknown Teunisen and unknown Teunisen
Added by: Stillman Foote Westbrook III on October 15, 2009
Managed by: Stillman Foote Westbrook III


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12 Feb 2017, 9:37 am

Misslizard wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Any relations from the Kinderhook,Albany NY area?We may he distant cousins.lol Andries Hanses Scherp is my relation from that area.
There isn't a blood quantum for one of the Cherokee nations.A direct relative on Dawes roll is all you need to claim tribal recognition.


My earliest relative Jan Teunisen came to this country on a 4 year term of employment as a carpenter in the Manor of Rensselaerswyck in 1641 which I believe is very near or now part of Albany so who knows. Eventually settled and helped found the community of Minisink in Orange County New York. The Dutch part of my family were pretty prominent up until the end of the 19th century, there was family that fought on both sides of the Revolution some ending up in Canada but that didn't last long as just one generation later I guess a 'cousin' became one of the great traitors in Canadian history during the War of 1812. Now that's an American patriot! :P My mom did all this genealogy stuff 15+ years ago and visited all the sites, I love learning history and putting a personal connection on it makes it really fascinating stuff. Any Westbrook's or Decker's in your family?

This Jan Teunisen?
Jan Teunisen
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 1605
De Bilt, Utrecht, Nederland
Death: circa 1665 (52-68)
Albany, New York
Immediate Family:
Son of Teunis Reyersen and Jannetje Janse
Husband of Eychgan Bosch
Father of Dirck Teunisen
Brother of unknown Teunisen and unknown Teunisen
Added by: Stillman Foote Westbrook III on October 15, 2009
Managed by: Stillman Foote Westbrook III


Some of the information varies but that is most definitely the same person



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12 Feb 2017, 10:26 am

Jacoby wrote:
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Jacoby wrote:
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Any relations from the Kinderhook,Albany NY area?We may he distant cousins.lol Andries Hanses Scherp is my relation from that area.
There isn't a blood quantum for one of the Cherokee nations.A direct relative on Dawes roll is all you need to claim tribal recognition.


My earliest relative Jan Teunisen came to this country on a 4 year term of employment as a carpenter in the Manor of Rensselaerswyck in 1641 which I believe is very near or now part of Albany so who knows. Eventually settled and helped found the community of Minisink in Orange County New York. The Dutch part of my family were pretty prominent up until the end of the 19th century, there was family that fought on both sides of the Revolution some ending up in Canada but that didn't last long as just one generation later I guess a 'cousin' became one of the great traitors in Canadian history during the War of 1812. Now that's an American patriot! :P My mom did all this genealogy stuff 15+ years ago and visited all the sites, I love learning history and putting a personal connection on it makes it really fascinating stuff. Any Westbrook's or Decker's in your family?

This Jan Teunisen?
Jan Teunisen
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 1605
De Bilt, Utrecht, Nederland
Death: circa 1665 (52-68)
Albany, New York
Immediate Family:
Son of Teunis Reyersen and Jannetje Janse
Husband of Eychgan Bosch
Father of Dirck Teunisen
Brother of unknown Teunisen and unknown Teunisen
Added by: Stillman Foote Westbrook III on October 15, 2009
Managed by: Stillman Foote Westbrook III


Some of the information varies but that is most definitely the same person

Cool! That's from the Geni site.There wasn't a path from my family to yours.
Just discovered Chuck Norris is tribe wannabe.I'd always heard he claimed Cherokee.


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12 Feb 2017, 11:02 am

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There was a book published a few years ago called "Liberal Fascism." Many people on the left mocked the very idea. The election aftermath has pretty much shown the title was on target.

This election? In which a Republican has been elected president, has started persecuting people based on nationality, has starting stripping people of access to their rights, and has clamped down on freedom of speech and freedom of the press?

This has only shown that the right is closer to fascism than the left. We wouldn't be seeing any of this lunacy with Obama or Clinton as president.



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12 Feb 2017, 11:23 am

Darmok wrote:
There was a book published a few years ago called "Liberal Fascism." Many people on the left mocked the very idea. The election aftermath has pretty much shown the title was on target.

HATE MACHINE: How Liberals Became the Very Fascists They Always Warned Us About

Before the election, we were told that Trump was a Nazi and his jackbooted thugs would take over and put people into camps and treat them as nonhumans. That is, to do what was only done previously in America by Democrats.

Society is more divided now than at any time since the Civil War. People hate other people because of who they voted for. People are even choosing friends and breaking apart from family members based on who they supported in the last election. Beyond Facebook unfriending, relationships are impacted. It’s based on fear, disappointment, and hatred, and it seems to be all coming from one side.

Leftists said if Trump won, that there’d be violent mobs of hate, and intolerant fascists would try to silence those with whom they disagree. And they were right. It just was by a group of people from which they didn’t expect it: themselves.


http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2017/0 ... -very.html

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Bill Maher and guests get apoplectic when Piers Morgan dares to suggest the reaction to Trump is counterproductive.
Googling it every organization putting up this video is saying Morgan is Trump supporter who gets owned. Morgan is the guy who got thrown off of CNN for being to strident for gun control and he says here he agrees with Maher on most things


I did not agree with some things Morgan said in this video but I agree in the long run about the left in general being counterproductive in their reaction to Trump. The guest from move on was so excited because they "won" in court. The Trump ban might very well be thrown out but they have not won anything yet, they got a stay which prohibits enforcement of the executive order for now. Thier fascism helped us get Trump, and if they continue they will get a Republican landslide in 2020. If they succeed in their aim of driving so Trump totally insane they get President Pence. Be it President Pence or a Republican landslide it means more actual policies progressives oppose. But I guess that is not as important to some of these people destroying an opponent in an argument. As one guest said these are not normal times. Picking your battles is a still good advice. The resistance is not doing everything wrong the womens march was very effective politically precisely because it demonstrated(pun intended) peaceful strength.

Jim Jefferies is the hero internet land. This is the same guy who made an X rated joke about Barron Trump. Enough said.


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12 Feb 2017, 12:14 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Warren seems to have the same mental condition as Rachel Dolezal.

Pretend to be a minority, so people will think you're a victim of [oppression, disadvantage ....].

However, since they desire that, the opposite is likely true.

It's possible that she really believed it if she was told by family.She should have done research as an adult before claiming it however.On one of the genealogical tv shows there was a woman who was sure she was part native,her family had always claimed it.But when the records and DNA were researched it was negative.


That's my take on it.

Even if she did testing and found she is truly 3% American Indian (1/32) as she thinks, to actually claim that 3% as who you are indicates a mental condition.

Something is lacking, and she uses the minority status to fulfill it.

Maybe, she thought she was too boring, so she uses the Indian heritage to make herself seem interesting.



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12 Feb 2017, 12:31 pm

The legality of it is so unquestionable, it would be unfathomable that SCOTUS would rule against it without creating law which is not in their jurisdiction. This is not a dictatorship of judges! Pick your battles, this hysteria about everything Trump does is not conducive to a better end for you or me. We have a lying propagandist press that is at war with the president and the American people, they spread misinformation and create these false narratives because the interests they represents are unwilling to cede the power cede the power they have gained. They are not your friends and their interests are not your own, I do not be believe they speak for the majority of the American people.

The truth is we're are coming to a point in our civilization to where we need to make some really consequential decisions, we have the power to decide the fate our nation like at few other points in history and in our republican form of democracy it will ultimately be decided by the voters. Elections have consequences and never has a truer statement ever been said! Ultimately the issue with an even numbered court is that it kicks decisions down the road and we have a qualified judge nominated to the court that at this time. We may have a constitutional crisis which can legally be solved by our congress or by convention as called by the states.