02 Jun 2009, 6:13 pm
Shadowgirl wrote:
I'll prove its wrong
I'm looking forward to it.
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According to the Word of God, abortion is one of the worst murders a human being can commit.
You say this, and don't back it up with scripture.
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About abortion, the Scripture says, "In the secret place doth he murder the innocent" (Psalms 10: 
. The "secret place" is the womb of a mother. Definitely, the baby is an "innocent."
. The "secret place" is the womb of a mother. Definitely, the baby is an "innocent."Oh, for crying out loud. Get a real translation, not that KJV crap. Even with your inaccurate translation, you have to go quote-mining, take one fragment of one verse badly out of context, and badly misinterpret 30% of the words in that fragment to come up with something against abortion. And referring to a fetus as a baby is inaccurate, and biases the issue emotionally.
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As abortion in the sight of God is one of the worst murders, it stands to reason that the guilty ones will suffer the worst punishments.
First, you have not demonstrated your premise (that abortion in the sight of God is one of the worst murders) so your conclusion does not follow. Even if your premise were true, check Matthew 5:19 to see why your conclusion is a load of bull.
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Further, the Scripture says, "Lo, children are a heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is His reward" (Psalms 127:3). If children are a heritage or reward for parents, abortion destroys God-given rewards.
Only if fetuses are children, and there doesn't seem to be agreement on that point.
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It is true; some countries have legalized abortion. In no way can that alter the Word of God. "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My Words shall not pass away."
Meaningless. You have not demonstrated that the Word of God is in opposition to abortion.
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One must pause to think of Helen Keller and the amazing impact she has had on this world.
What amazing impact was that, exactly? I'm sure you would not approve of Keller if you knew anything of her adult life- she was a socialist.
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Jesus said, "Whoso shall receive one such little child in My name receives Me" (Matt.18:5). Quoting this verse, Mother Theresa, on February 3, 1994 in Washington D.C. at the National Prayer Breakfast with President Clinton (an abortionist) and his wife Hillary seated to her right, said, "The greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because Jesus said, If you receive a little child, you receive Me. So every abortion is the denial of receiving Jesus, the neglect of receiving Jesus."
Except that not everyone agrees with your claim that a blastocyst is a child.
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Some couples, in order to avoid abortion, engage in "family planning." Any birth control other than self-control is abomination in the sight of God and invites the judgment of God.
Evidence please?
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"For thou has possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb. I will praise thee: for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvelous are thy works; and that my soul knows right well. My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them" (Psalm 139:13-16).
“Thou shalt not kill” (Ex. 20:13)
“Thou shalt not kill” (Ex. 20:13)
And still, you have not showed a Biblical basis for the claim that a fetus is a person.
02 Jun 2009, 6:16 pm
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02 Jun 2009, 6:18 pm
ed wrote:
I especially loved the paragraph you edited out 
You caught that too? I was wondering why this sudden long post, considering past posting style.
http://www.raptureready.com/faq/faq340.html
02 Jun 2009, 6:19 pm
claire333 wrote:
ed wrote:
I especially loved the paragraph you edited out
You caught that too? I was wondering why this sudden long post, considering past posting style. http://www.raptureready.com/faq/faq340.html
Plagiarism. Nice.
02 Jun 2009, 6:21 pm
Orwell wrote:
Shadowgirl wrote:
I'll prove its wrong
I'm looking forward to it.
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According to the Word of God, abortion is one of the worst murders a human being can commit.
You say this, and don't back it up with scripture.
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About abortion, the Scripture says, "In the secret place doth he murder the innocent" (Psalms 10: . The "secret place" is the womb of a mother. Definitely, the baby is an "innocent."
. The "secret place" is the womb of a mother. Definitely, the baby is an "innocent."Oh, for crying out loud. Get a real translation, not that KJV crap. Even with your inaccurate translation, you have to go quote-mining, take one fragment of one verse badly out of context, and badly misinterpret 30% of the words in that fragment to come up with something against abortion. And referring to a fetus as a baby is inaccurate, and biases the issue emotionally.
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As abortion in the sight of God is one of the worst murders, it stands to reason that the guilty ones will suffer the worst punishments.
First, you have not demonstrated your premise (that abortion in the sight of God is one of the worst murders) so your conclusion does not follow. Even if your premise were true, check Matthew 5:19 to see why your conclusion is a load of bull.
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Further, the Scripture says, "Lo, children are a heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is His reward" (Psalms 127:3). If children are a heritage or reward for parents, abortion destroys God-given rewards.
Only if fetuses are children, and there doesn't seem to be agreement on that point.
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It is true; some countries have legalized abortion. In no way can that alter the Word of God. "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My Words shall not pass away."
Meaningless. You have not demonstrated that the Word of God is in opposition to abortion.
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One must pause to think of Helen Keller and the amazing impact she has had on this world.
What amazing impact was that, exactly? I'm sure you would not approve of Keller if you knew anything of her adult life- she was a socialist.
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Jesus said, "Whoso shall receive one such little child in My name receives Me" (Matt.18:5). Quoting this verse, Mother Theresa, on February 3, 1994 in Washington D.C. at the National Prayer Breakfast with President Clinton (an abortionist) and his wife Hillary seated to her right, said, "The greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because Jesus said, If you receive a little child, you receive Me. So every abortion is the denial of receiving Jesus, the neglect of receiving Jesus."
Except that not everyone agrees with your claim that a blastocyst is a child.
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Some couples, in order to avoid abortion, engage in "family planning." Any birth control other than self-control is abomination in the sight of God and invites the judgment of God.
Evidence please?
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"For thou has possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb. I will praise thee: for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvelous are thy works; and that my soul knows right well. My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them" (Psalm 139:13-16).
“Thou shalt not kill” (Ex. 20:13)
“Thou shalt not kill” (Ex. 20:13)
And still, you have not showed a Biblical basis for the claim that a fetus is a person.
You need to take a good long and hard look at yourself and turn to God to show you.
02 Jun 2009, 6:23 pm
claire333 wrote:
ed wrote:
I especially loved the paragraph you edited out
You caught that too? I was wondering why this sudden long post, considering past posting style. http://www.raptureready.com/faq/faq340.html
Do you even have a life? If you had to got through all that trouble to find what I asked to borrow then you must have a sad life.
02 Jun 2009, 6:23 pm
02 Jun 2009, 6:24 pm
wow, shadowgirl, such fail! instead of answering any of the questions raised to you, you say we should magically convert to your sky god!
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