Black Gangs Vented Hatred For Whites In Downtown Denver

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I was just stating that whites(and I could include asians also) have a way lower percentage in the crime rates per capita than blacks and mestizos("Latinos" can be white, my mistake on previously using that term), and that a good amount of people doubt or deny this evident fact.

Talking about race would have been like "blacks are genetically predisposed to commit crimes", I haven't said anything like that.

The percentage of crime among whites is lower than among blacks and mestizos.
This is a fact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_c ... _of_the_US

Can you ask me the same question again without "assuming that crime is unevenly distributed between whites/non-whites as you stated" to let me know you accept the data I gave you(the wiki link^).

i've already asked you the question twice, i think you know what it is i'm getting at. i overlooked Makuranososhi's post, and as titus said, he hit the nail on the head. but i was wondering what your point of view on this is. socio-economic factors, or a racial predisposition to crime?

in addition, in the wikipedia link you posted, are you referring to prison population as an indicator of this correlation between crime and race? i should also point out that further down the article it made mention of a disparity in reporting of crime between racial groups. so it doesn't really seem so clear cut.

Possibly both. I've read that there is a correlation between race and testosterone levels, and that testosterone levels correlate with the likelyhood of committing crime. I had a quick Google to verify the most contentious part of this, and the following from a reputable source indicates the race/testosterone relationship is at least worth investigating in younger males.


The above is from an abstract found here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10604704

No I didn't. I just want to know if you are going to accept that out of 100 blacks and 100 whites the number of black criminals is larger than the number of white criminals.
Can you do this so we can go on with the debate... Or you going to say it is a socio-economic problem and end it there?

you didn't what? i wouldn't accept it on the basis of the wikipedia article, no.

i think we can still go on with the debate.

It's kind of creepy how the same group of people trying to say it's "society's fault" are the same group of people talking so much about race.

"I didn't" or I should have put "I'm not"(regarding the text I bolded from your post).
It is more than prison rates. Prison rates is a good indicator yet it could be that the police is racist, unfortunately for minority criminal apologetics, the mindset and the ethnic background of the cop has been changing with the years, they are all zombies following their laws blindly. Race and nationality cause unmeasurable biases. The police today is ethnically diverse, specially in multiethnical cities where blacks and mestizos have large percentages among the total population.

I don't know if you are in South Dakota or in Scotland but either way these two cities have less than 1% black population.
I doubt you been involved with the "black community".
I doubt you been to prison or you visited them, specially prisons in multiethnical cities.
I doubt you were involved in gangs or experienced gang violence.
You just did not do your research and do not have the experience, this prevents you from accepting that crime is more predominantly among blacks and mestizos than among whites.

Until you cannot accept that, we can't continue the debate because anything I say would just not be understood and cause you to assume what I think not.

bolded for humor and clarity.

But where is the percentages for white and black rapists of the remaining 12%, the interracial rapes?
That is what I was referring to.

Those two statistics present a very incomplete picture. And the way they are presented is misleading. My guess is that this is deliberate.

Firstly, imagine if the victim and offender were of the same race in 100% of rapes. Then, if both races share the same propensity for rape, you would expect the ratio of black to white victims to reflect the ratio of blacks to whites in the general population (ie, about 12% black to ... what is it now, 60% white in the USA?)

Secondly, they do not say anything about the 12% of rapes where the offender and victim were not of the same race.

Thirdly, they do not include details for other races, such as hispanic.
(It's worth noting that as far as FBI stats are concerned, hispanics are included as a victim category, but are lumped in with whites when it comes to the offender category.)

i don't have time to type out a long response to you. however, i'm in scotland. and i've not updated my profile in a while either. i live in, and come from, glasgow.

your assumptions are grossly stupid, given that you know nothing at all about me, where i have lived, or what i've experienced.

@ peebo - I wouldn't waste the effort, arguing with racists frequently becomes fractal - you will never reach a definitve end point wherein they will concede the point- but while we're talking about race and crime how's about they list for us all the crimes committed by white-europeans against every other ethnic group on the planet, we could start from around the point the Santa Maria turned up off the coast of South America (I'm aware they were from spain, just its a fairly reasonable jumping off point for characterising the point i'm making).......

What point is that? Is it the point that by calling someone "racist" you believe that you instantly render anything they say as invalid?

We can clearly see who the racists are.
The ones that use centuries-old data to attempt to justify the crimes of today done by non-whites towards whites.
People that use emotional responses and name calling as a way of evading a clean debate.
For them it's easy, point the finger at the evil white Europeans, but at the same time say race has nothing to do and that it is just a socio-economic factor, contradicting themselves.

BTW Peebo, I don't assume anything from you, I said I doubt it.
I see the people here in the US who have a first hand experience of interracial violence but it seems they happen to suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.