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Most hated Christian
Ray Comfort 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
John Calvin 7%  7%  [ 4 ]
Jonathan Edwards 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Paul of Tarsus 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
Augustine of Hippo 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Mike Huckabee 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Phil Donohue 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
James Dobson 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Pat Robertson 9%  9%  [ 5 ]
Sye TenBruggencate 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Cornelius Van Til 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jesus 13%  13%  [ 7 ]
Other (please mention in thread) 24%  24%  [ 13 ]
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20 Aug 2010, 10:49 am

DW_a_mom wrote:
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Whoever the Pope was that was diddling the little kids, or whatever was going on there.



All of them.


You're going too far. You can't slander on this board. STOP.


There's skeletons in all of their closets. Pope JPII has been documented as knowing about and protecting the priests who were molesting kids. Same with Pope Nazi.

These scumbags protect rapists from serving jailtime and you're concerned with me slandering them? Sorry. This has nothing to do with your faith in God and everything to do with what a scumbag organization the Vatican is.


You posted that they were all pedophiles, as in 100%, every one over nearly 2000 years. Now you are saying they protected pedophiles, and speaking of 2 popes in particular. Not the same thing, even if you can claim moral equivalency. You need to add the qualifiers.


There's more skeletons in the Vatican's closet than combined at every concentration camp/extermination camp site combined.

Though this may explain part of that:


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20 Aug 2010, 1:10 pm

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There's more skeletons in the Vatican's closet than combined at every concentration camp/extermination camp site combined.

Though this may explain part of that:


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First Pope Pius 12, now Pope Benny 16, the Panzer Pope, ex Hitler Youth and FLAK gunner for the Third Riech. He is the only Pope I know of who says "Jawohl" instead of "Amen".

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20 Aug 2010, 1:12 pm

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FLAK gunner for the Third Riech.


Was he?


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20 Aug 2010, 1:17 pm

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Going after the Pope and his advisers in Rome ... well, that is like going after the Head of State of any foreign sovereign entity. Quite a bit more complicated than filing a few charges.

Law enforcement is prosecuting the priests involved. But those priests are not the Church, and should not be equated with the Church. Only a few of the pebbles in the garden.

The issue about the two popes as skafather84 stated, about seemingly protecting child abusers, seems to undermine their credibility regarding their supposely sanctity and morality, and how to deal with an issue that undermines some of the catholic faith? Unless there are two options that I can think of: 1- Catholics must deny the popes did that even in the face of evidence, if there is, or 2- They would have to question "man's laws". I don't know how else they can and have handled the controversy.


In the end, Pope's are men. Some have taken the job and it's responsibilities better than others. Same is true for leaders pretty much everywhere. I guess that is how Catholics end up looking at it, when it turns out one was a dud.


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20 Aug 2010, 1:18 pm

skafather84 wrote:
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FLAK gunner for the Third Riech.


Was he?


See

http://www.newstatesman.com/religion/20 ... s-catholic

Use control f and find the word gunner.

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There's skeletons in all of their closets. Pope JPII has been documented as knowing about and protecting the priests who were molesting kids. Same with Pope Nazi.

These scumbags protect rapists from serving jailtime and you're concerned with me slandering them? Sorry. This has nothing to do with your faith in God and everything to do with what a scumbag organization the Vatican is.

But isn't the sacrament of penance enough for the absolution of your sins? Maybe that is all God requires for homosexual pedophilia, unlike man's laws?


and please stop aligning homosexuality and pedophilia - there's no evidence for it, and you're just propagating myths.



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05 Oct 2010, 5:47 pm

Surely Fred Phelps?

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05 Oct 2010, 5:48 pm

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There's skeletons in all of their closets. Pope JPII has been documented as knowing about and protecting the priests who were molesting kids. Same with Pope Nazi.

These scumbags protect rapists from serving jailtime and you're concerned with me slandering them? Sorry. This has nothing to do with your faith in God and everything to do with what a scumbag organization the Vatican is.

But isn't the sacrament of penance enough for the absolution of your sins? Maybe that is all God requires for homosexual pedophilia, unlike man's laws?


and please stop aligning homosexuality and pedophilia - there's no evidence for it, and you're just propagating myths.


I think that was more because pedophilia in the church tends to occur mostly with priests fondling little boys.


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05 Oct 2010, 7:54 pm

Adolf Hitler's parents were Catholics and he was baptized, so..

But in all seriousness, the current pope for covering up boy touching and then reinstating the priests that did it.



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07 Oct 2010, 9:16 pm

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God (maybe doesn't exactly fit the context of the thread, but Jesus was up there).

Fred Phelps, if you count him as a Christian.

Whoever the Pope was that was diddling the little kids, or whatever was going on there.


It wasn't John Paul himself, but Fr. John Geoghan is the first person who comes to mind. He was a priest in Boston when the sex abuse scandal was at full center.


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07 Oct 2010, 9:17 pm

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Surely Fred Phelps?

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Not a Christian, just a world-class nutjob/apostate/false prophet.


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07 Oct 2010, 9:18 pm

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This honor has got to go to Kent Hovind.


Who's Kent Hovind?


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07 Oct 2010, 9:44 pm

Anybody pick me? :joker:



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07 Oct 2010, 11:56 pm

I think they're specifically looking for a nationally/internationally controversial figure.


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08 Oct 2010, 6:45 pm

I'm honoured :-)

[url=http://www.premierradio.org.uk/listen/ondemand.aspx?mediaid={D11C366F-F393-4C99-BE1F-E18CE00F7D63}]Here's[/url] a debate I did recently on British radio.

(Click on "Here's")


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