Should Christians ever fight?
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Very well then:
Various translations of the same passage in Leviticus 18:22
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You asked for a rebuke, and this is on an issue of immorality which you have supported, so there is your rebuke in quotations.
You asked, I gave. Also, you condemned me for not feeding your trolling behavior, do you like to condemn often or is it just me that you have a grudge against?
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Good god, really? You really believe that? Basically you're saying Christians are p*****s. All that passage in the Bible is referring to is when someone is persecuting you because of your faith, not if someone is randomly kicking your balls. There's a HUGE difference. You have the right to defend yourself, your family and your property.
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Revelation 21:4 "And [God] will wipe out every tear from their eyes,
and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.
The former things have passed away."
Where in the Bible does it say all of that?
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Where in the Bible does it say all of that?
Matthew, from during Christ's sermon on the mountain, chapters 5 through 7 about. An oft quote-mined region of the Bible by liberals, especially for the "judge not lest thee be judged" portion which is always truncated and never interpreted in accord with the context of the rest of the Bible.
Where in the Bible does it say all of that?
Matthew, from during Christ's sermon on the mountain, chapters 5 through 7 about. An oft quote-mined region of the Bible by liberals, especially for the "judge not lest thee be judged" portion which is always truncated and never interpreted in accord with the context of the rest of the Bible.
So there is a way to properly interpret the Bible, or at least some context that must be adhered to?
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Where in the Bible does it say all of that?
Matthew, from during Christ's sermon on the mountain, chapters 5 through 7 about. An oft quote-mined region of the Bible by liberals, especially for the "judge not lest thee be judged" portion which is always truncated and never interpreted in accord with the context of the rest of the Bible.
So there is a way to properly interpret the Bible, or at least some context that must be adhered to?
Starting with the complete context of the passage, meaning the surrounding text, type of literature, who the speaker is, who the audience is, etc. Also, a method of interpreting scripture that I heard was related to the doctrine of Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone) is that if you have interpretations of different passages which contradict each other, then it is not the passages but instead one's interpretation that is incorrect.
Problem is, that makes the Bible itself, unfalsifiable.
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Problem is, that makes the Bible itself, unfalsifiable.
Not quite, as it is a matter of internal consistency being dealt here with. Sola Scriptura in general may have such implication, but when dealing with conflicting interpretations of passages then one or more of the interpretations is wrong. Such error in interpretation would need to be located for internal consistency of the set of interpretations one has. It is similar to reading something that has a spelling error and assuming that another word was intend in lieu for the sake of the consistency of whatever letter or document being read.
You asked for a rebuke, and this is on an issue of immorality which you have supported, so there is your rebuke in quotations.
Oh, okay. I didn't realize that I was supportive of homosexuality. But, so long as a retort is in order, here is what David had to say about his good buddy Jonathan:
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You asked for a rebuke, and this is on an issue of immorality which you have supported, so there is your rebuke in quotations.
Oh, okay. I didn't realize that I was supportive of homosexuality. But, so long as a retort is in order, here is what David had to say about his good buddy Jonathan:
And even if that were an example of homosexuality it would prove nothing in regard to God's will. But if you wish to make a moral argument upon the basis of the actions of people in the past then also,
(1) And it came to pass, when David and his men were come to Ziklag on the third day, that the Amalekites had invaded the south, and Ziklag, and smitten Ziklag, and burned it with fire;
(2) And had taken the women captives, that were therein: they slew not any, either great or small, but carried them away, and went on their way.
(3) So David and his men came to the city, and, behold, it was burned with fire; and their wives, and their sons, and their daughters, were taken captives.
(4) Then David and the people that were with him lifted up their voice and wept, until they had no more power to weep.
(5) And David's two wives were taken captives, Ahinoam the Jezreelitess, and Abigail the wife of Nabal the Carmelite.
(6) And David was greatly distressed; for the people spake of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and for his daughters: but David encouraged himself in the LORD his God.
(7) And David said to Abiathar the priest, Ahimelech's son, I pray thee, bring me hither the ephod. And Abiathar brought thither the ephod to David.
(8) And David enquired at the LORD, saying, Shall I pursue after this troop? shall I overtake them? And he answered him, Pursue: for thou shalt surely overtake them, and without fail recover all.
(9) So David went, he and the six hundred men that were with him, and came to the brook Besor, where those that were left behind stayed.
(10) But David pursued, he and four hundred men: for two hundred abode behind, which were so faint that they could not go over the brook Besor.
(11) And they found an Egyptian in the field, and brought him to David, and gave him bread, and he did eat; and they made him drink water;
(12) And they gave him a piece of a cake of figs, and two clusters of raisins: and when he had eaten, his spirit came again to him: for he had eaten no bread, nor drunk any water, three days and three nights.
(13) And David said unto him, To whom belongest thou? and whence art thou? And he said, I am a young man of Egypt, servant to an Amalekite; and my master left me, because three days agone I fell sick.
(14) We made an invasion upon the south of the Cherethites, and upon the coast which belongeth to Judah, and upon the south of Caleb; and we burned Ziklag with fire.
(15) And David said to him, Canst thou bring me down to this company? And he said, Swear unto me by God, that thou wilt neither kill me, nor deliver me into the hands of my master, and I will bring thee down to this company.
(16) And when he had brought him down, behold, they were spread abroad upon all the earth, eating and drinking, and dancing, because of all the great spoil that they had taken out of the land of the Philistines, and out of the land of Judah.
(17) And David smote them from the twilight even unto the evening of the next day: and there escaped not a man of them, save four hundred young men, which rode upon camels, and fled.
(18) And David recovered all that the Amalekites had carried away: and David rescued his two wives.
(19) And there was nothing lacking to them, neither small nor great, neither sons nor daughters, neither spoil, nor any thing that they had taken to them: David recovered all.
Et Cetera.
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