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30 Sep 2010, 12:39 am

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He simply liked to fly by the seat of his pants and make decisions based on his "gut" while his underlings did all the actual thinking for him.


So he doesn't micromanage? good for him.

I'd expect him to be too busy anyway to be bothered with lots of details, and for him to naturally delegate authority.

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I get upset because I think conservatives are in the business of holding this country back when things could be better.


Or they could be alot worse.

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I don't know if conservatives and tea-partiers these days would like the world to return to what it was like in the late 1920s and 1930s.


I honestly would. I'm not being sarcastic. I'd love to have small government, 90% white, etc,.

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I just don't see the rationale in it. Why do you oppose progressive taxation


I dont' oppose progressive taxation

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Why do you oppose social programs paid for by said taxation?


I'm against a government that wants to take half of your paycheck and just redistribute it to a minority.

I am against a government that wishes to dominate national healthcare, and in the process, take complete control of departments of Mental Health, and in doing so, rewrite diagonstic criteria for psychiatric disorders, including AS.......... Am I the only one who sees the danger in having the government dictate on what grounds to institutionalize people for psychiatric disorders, by which I mean political dissent being classified as a mental illness? The government will get to take charge of this area and define who is crazy and who isn't, and possibly classify political dissidents as mentally insane.

I'm against a NHS that forces 5/6ths of the population to now sufffer crappy health-care for the sake of a minority population that demands it.

Its likely that these people with their health card will just show up in ERs and sit in there for days, just to get out of the rain. Enjoy the long lines. I'd bet anything lines and lines of black people will spend days clogging ER waiting rooms on the slightest pretext, so good luck if you have an actual emergency.

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There's no such thing as a liberal fascist. Fascism is a right-wing ideology by definition
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I know. I think the left is in the process of institutionalizing a 'reverse fascism'........... the same fascist principles are applied, but in reverse. For example, you substitute the 'Aryan Master Race,' with government mandated 'Black and Mexican priority.' Complete liberal control of education and discipline for any who refuse to conform to diversity tenets, etc. Obama youth brigades.............. Basically a mirror image of every aspect of Nazi fascism.



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30 Sep 2010, 12:48 am

Obama gets criticized for the same things Bush was praised for.

If you like sh***y policy, then be consistent in liking sh***y policy.


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30 Sep 2010, 1:35 am

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I get upset because I think conservatives are in the business of holding this country back when things could be better. The same thing happened after the Great Depression during the FDR administration. Opponents cried bloody murder over the introduction of government funded social programs and regulations. I don't know if conservatives and tea-partiers these days would like the world to return to what it was like in the late 1920s and 1930s.


You mean like the Supreme Court FDR tried to undermine via his packing scheme because so many of his New Deal programs were blatantly unconstitutional? If it wasn't for WWII, FDR wouldn't be so fondly remembered today, it basically masked the many failures of his economic policies.


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30 Sep 2010, 5:24 am

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You mean like the Supreme Court FDR tried to undermine via his packing scheme because so many of his New Deal programs were blatantly unconstitutional? If it wasn't for WWII, FDR wouldn't be so fondly remembered today, it basically masked the many failures of his economic policies.


Adolph Hitler did more to end the Great Depression than anything FDR and his New Deal buddies did. In 1937 the U.S. suffered a recession within a depression and things were worse in 1937 than they were in 1933. All of FDR's alphabet soup agencies could not restart the economy. It took preparation for war to do that. Maybe that is why Prince Obama has his very own war going in Afghanistan.

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30 Sep 2010, 11:45 pm

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I'm against a government that wants to take half of your paycheck and just redistribute it to a minority.

I am against a government that wishes to dominate national healthcare, and in the process, take complete control of departments of Mental Health, and in doing so, rewrite diagonstic criteria for psychiatric disorders, including AS.......... Am I the only one who sees the danger in having the government dictate on what grounds to institutionalize people for psychiatric disorders, by which I mean political dissent being classified as a mental illness? The government will get to take charge of this area and define who is crazy and who isn't, and possibly classify political dissidents as mentally insane.

I'm against a NHS that forces 5/6ths of the population to now sufffer crappy health-care for the sake of a minority population that demands it.

Its likely that these people with their health card will just show up in ERs and sit in there for days, just to get out of the rain. Enjoy the long lines. I'd bet anything lines and lines of black people will spend days clogging ER waiting rooms on the slightest pretext, so good luck if you have an actual emergency.

You see, this is the kind of BS that pisses me off. I don't know where you get this crap or if you just pulled it out of your ass. All I see is a bunch of unfounded racist paranoia. My paranoia and anger over right-wingers has not proved unfounded. You just proved all my worst fears about the hidden darker motives behind the "tea party" movement.



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30 Sep 2010, 11:53 pm

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I get upset because I think conservatives are in the business of holding this country back when things could be better. The same thing happened after the Great Depression during the FDR administration. Opponents cried bloody murder over the introduction of government funded social programs and regulations. I don't know if conservatives and tea-partiers these days would like the world to return to what it was like in the late 1920s and 1930s.


You mean like the Supreme Court FDR tried to undermine via his packing scheme because so many of his New Deal programs were blatantly unconstitutional? If it wasn't for WWII, FDR wouldn't be so fondly remembered today, it basically masked the many failures of his economic policies.


Before FDR there was no Social Security. Would you suggest we get rid of Social Security? Many people on this site rely on it.



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01 Oct 2010, 12:07 am

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Adolph Hitler did more to end the Great Depression than anything FDR and his New Deal buddies did. In 1937 the U.S. suffered a recession within a depression and things were worse in 1937 than they were in 1933. All of FDR's alphabet soup agencies could not restart the economy. It took preparation for war to do that. Maybe that is why Prince Obama has his very own war going in Afghanistan.

Or maybe we should just start building a bunch of useless crap and force 1/4 the population to immigrate to Canada. Obama could put a bunch of people to work building massive statues and palaces for him. He could also give out free voluntary euthanasia kits for unemployed people and people on welfare.



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01 Oct 2010, 12:25 am

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He could also give out free voluntary euthanasia kits for unemployed people and people on welfare.


but that would indicate compassion, a trait distinctly absent in today's brand of mercenary conservative, who would be happier just using them [what conservatives call deadwood] as cannon fodder for their morally bankrupt, ultimately useless but highly profitable war mongering, or as permanently indentured servants/slaves.



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01 Oct 2010, 12:29 am

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You see, this is the kind of BS that pisses me off. I don't know where you get this crap or if you just pulled it out of your ass. All I see is a bunch of unfounded racist paranoia. My paranoia and anger over right-wingers has not proved unfounded. You just proved all my worst fears about the hidden darker motives behind the "tea party" movement.


Oh well, tough titty.

Have fun watching the Tea Party clean up in the midterms.



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01 Oct 2010, 12:31 am

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All I see is a bunch of unfounded racist paranoia.

Don't strain yourself looking. That's probably all that's there.

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My paranoia and anger over right-wingers has not proved unfounded. You just proved all my worst fears about the hidden darker motives behind the "tea party" movement.

Don't judge an entire group by the worst example of them that you can find.


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01 Oct 2010, 1:20 am

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marshall wrote:
All I see is a bunch of unfounded racist paranoia.

Don't strain yourself looking. That's probably all that's there.

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My paranoia and anger over right-wingers has not proved unfounded. You just proved all my worst fears about the hidden darker motives behind the "tea party" movement.

Don't judge an entire group by the worst example of them that you can find.

I'll try not to but so far statistics for conservatives and/or libertarians on WP isn't good. Two are confirmed racists, two are confirmed non-racists, and one I'm up in the air about. 40% racist doesn't give a very glamorous impression.



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01 Oct 2010, 1:57 am

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He could also give out free voluntary euthanasia kits for unemployed people and people on welfare.


but that would indicate compassion, a trait distinctly absent in today's brand of mercenary conservative, who would be happier just using them [what conservatives call deadwood] as cannon fodder for their morally bankrupt, ultimately useless but highly profitable war mongering, or as permanently indentured servants/slaves.


Yea. I guess you're right. According to many on the right compassion is a sign of weakness. Greed and selfishness is strength. As far as I'm concerned greed and selfishness don't need to be encouraged through a political ideology as they seem to happen naturally enough in our species.

Another thing I don't get is why people on the right think they're so hard by calling people on the left "whiners". Maybe we wouldn't be "whiners" anymore if we started carrying guns more at political rallies. We need to start sending our own message of fear and violence to keep them from getting too uppity. Screw pacifism. You know, I think I've finally figured out why so many of them hate black people. Black people have guns and know how to get angry and start riots. They're more of a threat to them than sissy white liberals.



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01 Oct 2010, 2:27 am

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Another thing I don't get is why people on the right think they're so hard by calling people on the left "whiners". Maybe we wouldn't be "whiners" anymore if we started carrying guns more at political rallies. We need to start sending our own message of fear and violence to keep them from getting too uppity. Screw pacifism.


Oh no, I'm so scared (sigh.) Just be careful not to get your thumb or fingers caught in the chamber when you have the bolt drawn back. I'd not want you dainties to accidentally lose a precious typing digit. Also be sure not to place your eye directly behind the charging handle as you are firing, as I'd not want you to get blinded on recoil. Besides that, have fun at the range.

I welcome the challenge for sure............ Leftists playing the hapless victim card is getting kind of old.

Besides that, it would be funny to see a bunch of epicene twinkletoed poindexter Frodo clones actually trying to manipulate a weapon with their dainty little fingers.



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01 Oct 2010, 9:50 am

marshall wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
marshall wrote:
He could also give out free voluntary euthanasia kits for unemployed people and people on welfare.


but that would indicate compassion, a trait distinctly absent in today's brand of mercenary conservative, who would be happier just using them [what conservatives call deadwood] as cannon fodder for their morally bankrupt, ultimately useless but highly profitable war mongering, or as permanently indentured servants/slaves.


Yea. I guess you're right. According to many on the right compassion is a sign of weakness. Greed and selfishness is strength. As far as I'm concerned greed and selfishness don't need to be encouraged through a political ideology as they seem to happen naturally enough in our species.

Another thing I don't get is why people on the right think they're so hard by calling people on the left "whiners". Maybe we wouldn't be "whiners" anymore if we started carrying guns more at political rallies. We need to start sending our own message of fear and violence to keep them from getting too uppity. Screw pacifism. You know, I think I've finally figured out why so many of them hate black people. Black people have guns and know how to get angry and start riots. They're more of a threat to them than sissy white liberals.


http://www.keepfearalive.com/

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01 Oct 2010, 9:55 am

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Oh no, I'm so scared (sigh.) Just be careful not to get your thumb or fingers caught in the chamber when you have the bolt drawn back. I'd not want you dainties to accidentally lose a precious typing digit.
That's most commonly a problem with the M1 Garand, which is Far too manly of a gun for your standard issue limp-wristed liberal. Perhaps you should start them out with a Crickett .22 short with a muzzle brake and a good recoil pad. :P


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01 Oct 2010, 2:13 pm

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Oh no, I'm so scared (sigh.) Just be careful not to get your thumb or fingers caught in the chamber when you have the bolt drawn back. I'd not want you dainties to accidentally lose a precious typing digit.
That's most commonly a problem with the M1 Garand, which is Far too manly of a gun for your standard issue limp-wristed liberal. Perhaps you should start them out with a Crickett .22 short with a muzzle brake and a good recoil pad. :P

Screw bolt action rifles. Is the AR-15 legal in the US?



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