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What do you think of the Holy Spirit?
The Holy Spirit is Awesome! 30%  30%  [ 13 ]
I deny the Holy Spirit 25%  25%  [ 11 ]
I am indifferent to the Holy Spirit 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
The Holy Spirit is dumb 16%  16%  [ 7 ]
What is the Holy Spirit? 9%  9%  [ 4 ]
Just show the results 16%  16%  [ 7 ]
Total votes : 44

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10 Dec 2011, 1:13 am

Dingus wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BEIWjjUCPM[/youtube]
hmmmm................
WARNING may be offensive to religious folk. A couple of swears in there too.


That is a smart kid.

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10 Dec 2011, 3:19 am

ruveyn wrote:
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I like the holy spirit. despite my dislike for christianity, i have no problem with the trinity. :pig:


If I were inclined to worship multiple gods I would become a Hindu. They have six million gods which is a lot more than a paltry three.

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Yes, like a sink with three faucets, for lack of a better explanation.

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10 Dec 2011, 4:12 am

A bunch of hooey from a book written by men to manipulate the general populous.
A very poorly written book at that!


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10 Dec 2011, 4:57 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
I like the holy spirit. despite my dislike for christianity, i have no problem with the trinity. :pig:


If I were inclined to worship multiple gods I would become a Hindu. They have six million gods which is a lot more than a paltry three.

ruveyn


Tsk, tsk; we have but one God, but that one has three facets.
Yes, like a sink with three faucets, for lack of a better explanation.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Not a good analogy, but then again nothing is when it comes to trying to describe the Trinity.

As a former Christian, I used to just say the Trinity was just incomprehensible to us. One God but three fully divine persons, each is God.



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10 Dec 2011, 8:47 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
I like the holy spirit. despite my dislike for christianity, i have no problem with the trinity. :pig:


If I were inclined to worship multiple gods I would become a Hindu. They have six million gods which is a lot more than a paltry three.

ruveyn


Tsk, tsk; we have but one God, but that one has three facets.
Yes, like a sink with three faucets, for lack of a better explanation.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


More than three... God the Retailer. God the Wholesaler and God who can get it done for nothing...

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10 Dec 2011, 9:00 am

ruveyn wrote:
Dingus wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BEIWjjUCPM[/youtube]
hmmmm................
WARNING may be offensive to religious folk. A couple of swears in there too.


That is a smart kid.

ruveyn


He's a religious kid, he has a "belief" there is not a god or a heaven.

A true Atheist doesn't believe in anything, only accepting hard testable theory.



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10 Dec 2011, 9:04 am

A true atheist does not believe in a god or a group of gods. I guess it is possible for someone to be technically a true atheist whilst still believe in fairies. But it is rare.


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10 Dec 2011, 9:10 am

Vexcalibur wrote:
A true atheist does not believe in a god or a group of gods. I guess it is possible for someone to be technically a true atheist whilst still believe in fairies. But it is rare.


No, the definition of an Atheist absolves a belief system entirely.

Belief denotes trust in something unknown. According to Atheists, everything is knowable.



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10 Dec 2011, 9:15 am

cw10 wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
A true atheist does not believe in a god or a group of gods. I guess it is possible for someone to be technically a true atheist whilst still believe in fairies. But it is rare.


No, the definition of an Atheist absolves a belief system entirely.

Belief denotes trust in something unknown. According to Atheists, everything is knowable.
You are confusing atheism with skepticism.


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10 Dec 2011, 9:16 am

Vexcalibur wrote:
cw10 wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
A true atheist does not believe in a god or a group of gods. I guess it is possible for someone to be technically a true atheist whilst still believe in fairies. But it is rare.


No, the definition of an Atheist absolves a belief system entirely.

Belief denotes trust in something unknown. According to Atheists, everything is knowable.
You are confusing atheism with skepticism.


Couldn't possibly.

Skepticism is Agnosticism.



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10 Dec 2011, 9:21 am

No, it is not :/


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10 Dec 2011, 9:25 am

Vexcalibur wrote:
No, it is not :/


I disagree.



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10 Dec 2011, 10:48 am

cw10 wrote:

A true Atheist doesn't believe in anything, only accepting hard testable theory.


Which means a belief that Reality is real and there is something Out There to which a theory applies.

Any sane person takes the evidence of his senses seriously.

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10 Dec 2011, 9:56 pm

MCalavera wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
I like the holy spirit. despite my dislike for christianity, i have no problem with the trinity. :pig:


If I were inclined to worship multiple gods I would become a Hindu. They have six million gods which is a lot more than a paltry three.

ruveyn


Tsk, tsk; we have but one God, but that one has three facets.
Yes, like a sink with three faucets, for lack of a better explanation.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Not a good analogy, but then again nothing is when it comes to trying to describe the Trinity.

As a former Christian, I used to just say the Trinity was just incomprehensible to us. One God but three fully divine persons, each is God.


I was being a b it of a smart ass, expecting ruveyn to come up with the same analogy, first.

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10 Dec 2011, 10:44 pm

ruveyn wrote:
cw10 wrote:

A true Atheist doesn't believe in anything, only accepting hard testable theory.


Which means a belief that Reality is real and there is something Out There to which a theory applies.

Any sane person takes the evidence of his senses seriously.

ruveyn


There are many sane atheists that don't believe reality is reality out of belief. It's just reality. There are quite a few psychotherapists that have similar views.

Atheists can't have it both ways, either they don't rely on belief systems or they aren't real atheists.

One can't say there is no god definitively and then in the next sentence use belief for anything. If you're going to deny belief in something, you have to maintain integrity and deny belief completely. Only hard testable theories in a universe of reality exists to an atheist. Atheists can not invoke belief of anything, to do so would accept as fact something untestable. Either it is, or it isn't. They are however allowed to claim ignorance, and the use of "I don't know" is allowed. But getting anyone to admit a lack of knowledge is difficult no matter what system they adhere to.



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10 Dec 2011, 11:34 pm

cw10 wrote:
There are many sane atheists that don't believe reality is reality out of belief. It's just reality. There are quite a few psychotherapists that have similar views.

Atheists can't have it both ways, either they don't rely on belief systems or they aren't real atheists.

One can't say there is no god definitively and then in the next sentence use belief for anything. If you're going to deny belief in something, you have to maintain integrity and deny belief completely. Only hard testable theories in a universe of reality exists to an atheist. Atheists can not invoke belief of anything, to do so would accept as fact something untestable. Either it is, or it isn't. They are however allowed to claim ignorance, and the use of "I don't know" is allowed. But getting anyone to admit a lack of knowledge is difficult no matter what system they adhere to.

Why do believe the question of whether it's possible to definitively say that there is no God is at all relevant or even useful?