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30 Mar 2011, 7:50 pm

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That's considerably more morally suspect than JFK having a fling with Marilyn.


But less than having her killed.


And then faking his own death so as to create the profitable JFK conspiracy memorabilia industry from some wholesale factory in Nicaragua


*shrug*

You know we're in big trouble if there ever were a conspiracy. The majority of people could never be convinced of it.


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30 Mar 2011, 8:30 pm

Did I see Inuyasha play the race card? I believe I did.

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That's probably true. A fairly large number of careless idiots have damn near gotten me killed when they chose to ignore the fact that I had the right of way. One person smashed up my old bike pretty badly when she actually hit me a few months back. Just sailed straight through a stop sign without bothering to check if anyone was there.


Funny, some of the worst driver's I've seen have either been from out east, or College Professors and/or College students.

Um... what's your point in even bringing that up? There are a lot of incompetent drivers. Some of them are college professors. A ton of them are students, both high school and college. I believe the girl who ran into me was a student at my school.


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30 Mar 2011, 10:52 pm

He is also obese.

He should pay attention to Mrs. Obama.



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30 Mar 2011, 11:16 pm

Islamic atheists?

"...by the time they're my age they will be in a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists and with no understanding of what it once meant to be an American."

Someone please tell me he misspoke on this one. I know plenty of both Muslim Americans and atheists with morals that would put many Christians to shame. Every religion with perhaps the exception of Budhism has a violent extremist streak, so he needs to put the fear mongering to rest.


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31 Mar 2011, 12:05 am

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It's not just that he had affaris, it's that he divorced his wives for younger women several times, at least once when the wife was in the hospital for cancer. That's considerably more morally suspect than JFK having a fling with Marilyn.


JFK had a fling with just about every woman in the White House, plus several mistresses.



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31 Mar 2011, 3:33 am

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Does FELONY mean anything to you? Perjury is a FELONY, I didn't know having an affair was a FELONY...


I thought the question was if he was stupid? How did we start shouting about felonies?


They are claiming that Newt shouldn't be President because he had an affair, yet these same individuals have no problem with Clinton being President and he not only had affairs, he also lied under oath before a Federal Grand Jury, which is a felony. Newt Gingrich did not lie under oath before a Federal Grand Jury.


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31 Mar 2011, 7:40 am

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I doubt that is accurate - maybe half, at most, of drivers would fail the test; most would simply study harder, learn more, and consequently be better drivers.
edit: I am not a licensed pilot, but I have flown a plane. I was not impressed by how difficult it was.


Try flying IFR and you will change your mind.

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I am a qualified licensed pilot on both land and seaplanes and have flown at night and in fog and I found it considerably easier (and more boring) than driving a car. Aside from landings and take-offs, there just isn't that many things to hit and the only control necessary for level flying can be managed with the index finger on the wheel or stick with a light touch to compensate for the engine torque. Chandelles, tailspins, eights on and around pylons are a cinch and anything more strenuous would have torn the wings off the light planes I flew so barrel rolls and loops were out. Side-slipping a plane for a short landing can be a bit tricky but well within the capability of a driver who can parallel park.



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31 Mar 2011, 10:47 am

The age requirements to get a pilot's license are lower than for a driver's licence, for whatever reason. My father flew planes before he drove cars. From what he's told me, flying isn't significantly more challenging than driving. Perhaps it is a different story with high-performance jet aircraft.


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31 Mar 2011, 11:54 am

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The age requirements to get a pilot's license are lower than for a driver's licence, for whatever reason. My father flew planes before he drove cars. From what he's told me, flying isn't significantly more challenging than driving. Perhaps it is a different story with high-performance jet aircraft.


Do you fly IFR? Fly IFR and tell me that.

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31 Mar 2011, 12:07 pm

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The age requirements to get a pilot's license are lower than for a driver's licence, for whatever reason. My father flew planes before he drove cars. From what he's told me, flying isn't significantly more challenging than driving. Perhaps it is a different story with high-performance jet aircraft.


Do you fly IFR? Fly IFR and tell me that.

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I thought I was clear enough that I was speaking based on what I have been told. My dad has flown based solely on instruments, though. I have not flown a plane, and I don't really enjoy driving cars. I prefer to stick with my bicycle.


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31 Mar 2011, 3:16 pm

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Did I see Inuyasha play the race card? I believe I did.


Huh?

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That's probably true. A fairly large number of careless idiots have damn near gotten me killed when they chose to ignore the fact that I had the right of way. One person smashed up my old bike pretty badly when she actually hit me a few months back. Just sailed straight through a stop sign without bothering to check if anyone was there.


Funny, some of the worst driver's I've seen have either been from out east, or College Professors and/or College students.

Um... what's your point in even bringing that up? There are a lot of incompetent drivers. Some of them are college professors. A ton of them are students, both high school and college. I believe the girl who ran into me was a student at my school.


College Professors and College students are not a race.

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He is also obese.

He should pay attention to Mrs. Obama.


If I am obese, then it would be cruel and unusual to have you ride a horse (cruel and unusual for the horse).



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31 Mar 2011, 3:19 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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Did I see Inuyasha play the race card? I believe I did.


Huh?

You accused someone (skafather) of being racist for disagreeing with you.

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That's probably true. A fairly large number of careless idiots have damn near gotten me killed when they chose to ignore the fact that I had the right of way. One person smashed up my old bike pretty badly when she actually hit me a few months back. Just sailed straight through a stop sign without bothering to check if anyone was there.


Funny, some of the worst driver's I've seen have either been from out east, or College Professors and/or College students.

Um... what's your point in even bringing that up? There are a lot of incompetent drivers. Some of them are college professors. A ton of them are students, both high school and college. I believe the girl who ran into me was a student at my school.


College Professors and College students are not a race.

Never said they were. Are you going to answer my question? What was your point in saying that at all?

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He is also obese.

He should pay attention to Mrs. Obama.


If I am obese, then it would be cruel and unusual to have you ride a horse (cruel and unusual for the horse).

I believe panda was referring to Newt.


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31 Mar 2011, 3:38 pm

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Did I see Inuyasha play the race card? I believe I did.


Huh?

You accused someone (skafather) of being racist for disagreeing with you.


You mean the "white trash" statement? Sorry but that is a racist comment, just like calling a black person the n-word, "black trash", etc. would be racist.



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31 Mar 2011, 4:11 pm

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Sorry but that is a racist comment,


No.

Saying all white people are crackers is racist.

Saying that a specific subset of white people suck at driving is just fact.


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31 Mar 2011, 4:17 pm

skafather84 wrote:
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Sorry but that is a racist comment,


No.

Saying all white people are crackers is racist.

Saying that a specific subset of white people suck at driving is just fact.


Agreed. This is diversionary. 'White trash' is not racist, at worst it is class/income based name calling, at best an accurately hilarious description of a method of repairs


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01 Apr 2011, 2:44 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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The age requirements to get a pilot's license are lower than for a driver's licence, for whatever reason. My father flew planes before he drove cars. From what he's told me, flying isn't significantly more challenging than driving. Perhaps it is a different story with high-performance jet aircraft.


Do you fly IFR? Fly IFR and tell me that.

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ffs, Ruveyn, instrument flying isn't that difficult either. It can be freaking scary, but it's not terribly difficult.
relevant to this tangent:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162- ... 04083.html
http://www.salon.com/technology/ask_the ... oot_bandit

Btw, this is an excellent example of a moved goal post: first it was flying a plane, now it's flying IFR; will it be flying a commercial jet-engine plane with a dozen passengers, next?