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I am beyond flabbergasted as to where you get these ideas. I would suggest you don't know very many liberals if you think that the political bent equates to the end justifying the means. I don't bend rules or ethics. I try to do it right beginning to end, although i will allow for carefully reasoned differences of opinion. Every boss I've ever had, conservative or liberal, has considered me the ethical compass of the company. You really are managing to insult and offend me over no more basis than the fact we have different politics. I know I fail in my own ideals every day in many ways but to insist I don't have them ... You're just WRONG.

I believe it is in Saul Alinsky's rulebook for radicals, which many liberals have been using as a guidebook.

Inuyasha,

"Many?". Proof please.

I don't know any liberals of radical bent in real life, although I have run into one or two among the thousands of random people i've encountered in places like this. We're just people who believe that government is in a position to help control poverty, and that doing so is the right thing to do. We're just people who think government is not supposed to tell others how to live or what to believe. Where in that is there room or need for radical?

You need to stop making such ridiculous leaps about people. I've never read or heard of this guy. My influences run more along the lines of the Kennedys, along with real life experience, as would be true for 99% of those of my political bent.

If you want to be taken seriously as a person of opinion, this sort of underlying assumption
has got to go. It's so far off base it's hard to believe you've ever paid attention to life. Yet I know you have, so the other option is wondering if you just want to stir up trouble and make people like me frustrated ...

Inuysha is a radical. A Teahadist. His every thought is about how the liberals are attempting to harm him or the world. You shouldn't expect reason. I think most people here know that by now.

It isn't fair to connect his ability to reason or not reason to his political bent, anymore than it is fair for him to make such broad based and unfounded assumptions based on mine. I may give up, I may wonder if he's trolling, but I'm not going to believe he doesn't have reason.

I base my opinion on observing his behavior in here. I stand by it and it's perfectly fair.

Feel free to engage with him and prove it to yourself.

Barak Obama is the illegitimate son of Saul Ailinsky and James Daley Sr. who were political bed mates.

ruveyn

I do realize you all have engaged more, but there are ways of dealing with the frustration that will lock him in further and actually feed the misperception. Those kinds of posts seem counter productive to me.

I want him to see the error in the broad based statements, not in his political positions. The mindset he seems to post from you can't even agree to disagree, and I find that alarming for someone trying to live in a world with so much diversity of thought.

Why in your mind does everyone have to choose either one side or the other? That very idiotic black-and-white mentality is part of the reason there will never be peace. I REFUSE TO SUPPORT EITHER SIDE.

In case you really want to know, the lyrics to this song explain precisely what I think of the Middle East.
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First DW_a_mom, I actually paid close attention to the 2008 election, and actually saw things being scrubbed off the internet by various sites trying to cover up things for Barack Obama. The places that claimed this was going on, weren't making it up. I actually saw it happen while visiting various sites.

Second, I actually do know what I'm talking about, I'm very cynical about politicians in general. That said, I have noticed that one political party has really gone off the deep-end (Democrats).

Third, when I refer to Rulebook for radicals, I'm talking about people like Barack Obama whom seems to follow Alinsky's playbook.



I'm surprised you don't break every mirror you look into (and I'm referring to you punching the mirror).

As far as learning your politics from the internet, I have to go with Jon Stewart when he said in effect - things written on the internet have as much legitimacy as something written on the washroom stall.
And as far as going off the deep end; well it's the Republicans who have accused the president of being the Antichrist, as well as believing that they can deny civil rights to gay people, and that the apocalypse is approaching nigh, just to name a few examples. If that isn't going off the deep end, I'd really like to know what is.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I don't think any of that had to do with my point.

The short summary is that I have challenged your over-generalizations. Your tendency to take one connection you have found and ascribe it to most or all, when the truth is all you actually found was one potential connection. And I have challenged it by asking if you really believe statement A applies to me. I know it doesn't, but the way you write, you sure make it seem like you think it does.