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17 Jun 2011, 9:06 am

Just to give everyone an update, since broadcasting my first podcast on 5th January 2011, on Talkshoe my monthly podcasts have received a total download count of 87 and counting. On Youtube, accumilatively my 4-part videos have received 610 views and counting.

Find out for yourself what the fuss is about and in doing so become armed with the knowledge of how we can truly make this world a better place. For ALL humanity.

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17 Jun 2011, 9:48 am

Adam-Anti-Um wrote:
Just to give everyone an update, since broadcasting my first podcast on 5th January 2011, on Talkshoe my monthly podcasts have received a total download count of 87 and counting. On Youtube, accumilatively my 4-part videos have received 610 views and counting.

Find out for yourself what the fuss is about and in doing so become armed with the knowledge of how we can truly make this world a better place. For ALL humanity.



The only thing I know that can do that is an asteroid the size of Texas hitting this planet.

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17 Jun 2011, 9:54 am

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The only thing I know that can do that is an asteroid the size of Texas hitting this planet.

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Then by all means have a listen and find out that there are more options not along the lines of total annhiliation of the human species.


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17 Jun 2011, 9:57 am

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ruveyn wrote:
The only thing I know that can do that is an asteroid the size of Texas hitting this planet.

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Then by all means have a listen and find out that there are more options not along the lines of total annhiliation of the human species.


We are fatally flawed. We are Primates. Only a major evolutionary shift will change that.

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17 Jun 2011, 9:59 am

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We are fatally flawed. We are Primates. Only a major evolutionary shift will change that.

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That seems like a rather heinous indightment of all the rest of us. What makes you feel this way?


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17 Jun 2011, 11:42 am

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We are fatally flawed. We are Primates. Only a major evolutionary shift will change that.

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That seems like a rather heinous indightment of all the rest of us. What makes you feel this way?


This is a simple biological fact. We are Primate version 3.0. We are products of our evolutionary development.

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22 Jun 2011, 11:00 am

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This is a simple biological fact. We are Primate version 3.0. We are products of our evolutionary development.

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There's no way that you can prove this empirically, is there? I think that tarring Gandhi with the same brush that you jusdge a benefit scrounger with is a logical or even moral decision to make. The fact that they are both human is irrelevant. The only biological fact here is that we can be CONDITIONED to be "primates" as you refer to them, just like we can be CONDITIONED to be logical, ethical and progressive human beings that actually make true changes for the betterment of humanity.

Your logic is flawed. Sorry. You are hiding behind the dominant mentality, that being the hebetated, apathetic, selfish and hostile value system, that is the dominant CONDITIONING of human beings within a monetary system (A monetary system would FALL APART otherwise) and unthinkingly, and rather cowardly claiming it to apply to every single human being that has ever existed, AND completely IGNORING all the examples of intellectual, imaginative, altruistic, couragous, progressive and brilliant human beings that exist and have existed in our history. Possibly because this is your last bastian of defense against the proposal of an RBE. Coz I would HARDLY think that the brilliant mind of Stephen Hawking, or Galileo, or Mother Theresa, or Martin Luther King, or Gandhi, or Michaelangelo, or Nikola Tesla, or Einstein were merely the minds of a "primate".


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22 Jun 2011, 11:03 am

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Coz I would HARDLY think that the brilliant mind of Stephen Hawking, or Galileo, or Mother Theresa, or Martin Luther King, or Gandhi, or Michaelangelo, or Nikola Tesla, or Einstein were merely the minds of a "primate".


Einstein cheated on his wives and Ghandi suggest that Jews bare their throats to the Nazis.

Ghandi was a supercalloused fragile mystic plagued with halitosis.

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22 Jun 2011, 11:09 am

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Einstein cheated on his wives and Ghandi suggest that Jews bare their throats to the Nazis.

Ghandi was a supercalloused fragile mystic plagued with halitosis.

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Sorry, but your attempt at a strawman here is failing miserably. You have failed to cover up your inability to address the point at hand and instead foolishly demonstrated your folly.

You can't even address the point that I am making.

We are talking about human beings here, correct? You wouldn't claim to be more perfect than any of us, right? Of course not. Coz if we were to follow your ratioonalle, you are no better than all of us "primates". So you REALLY need to throw that shovel away.

Does your statements about ONLY TWO of the brilliant individuakls that I have mentioned debunk my points? No. So please have the bravery to address the point that I have been making, or admit that you are wrong. Nothing bad will happen to you. I promise.


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22 Jun 2011, 11:17 am

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Your logic is flawed. Sorry. You are hiding behind the dominant mentality, that being the hebetated, apathetic, selfish and hostile value system, that is the dominant CONDITIONING of human beings within a monetary system (A monetary system would FALL APART otherwise) and unthinkingly, and rather cowardly claiming it to apply to every single human being that has ever existed, AND completely IGNORING all the examples of intellectual, imaginative, altruistic, couragous, progressive and brilliant human beings that exist and have existed in our history. Possibly because this is your last bastian of defense against the proposal of an RBE. Coz I would HARDLY think that the brilliant mind of Stephen Hawking, or Galileo, or Mother Theresa, or Martin Luther King, or Gandhi, or Michaelangelo, or Nikola Tesla, or Einstein were merely the minds of a "primate".


Human nature has a darkness within. It is genetic. Humans care more for their kids than the kids of other people not related top them. We are born selfish. The only mitigation is to learn some self control.

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22 Jun 2011, 11:31 am

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Human nature has a darkness within.


Sorry, human nature is a cop out. Designed so that people can throw up their hands and not have to bother to think anymore about a subject and thus allowing them to not get to the root of the problem. The first question I answer on my "Dispelling Myths" podcast outlines this well:

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Also a cop out. Just like the human nature argument. Sorry. The first 40 minutes of Zeitgeist Moving Forward outlines this "genetic" argument and the "human nature" argument and debunks it completely with interviews from Professor Robert Sapolsky & Dr. Gabor Mate:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w[/youtube]

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That says nothing about us as a species. Since you have ALREADY drawn a distinctive line of polarity between your own morality and the morality of Einstein, you have already contradicted yourself. You have actually PROVEN my point that we are in fact creatures of CONDITIONING.

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No. We are born curious. We are TAUGHT to be selfish, because selfishness perfectly benefits the monetary system. Go to any culture that isn't capitalistic and you will see for yourself.

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And plenty of us already have. Like I said a moment ago, you are contradicting yourself and actually proving my point.


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29 Jun 2011, 10:29 am

Its been a week Ruveyn, no reply?


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29 Jun 2011, 11:22 am

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Its been a week Ruveyn, no reply?


Reply to nonsense?

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30 Jun 2011, 7:34 am

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Reply to nonsense?

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Never stopped you before. What's stopping you now? Oh yea, thats right. You can't even start to disprove what I have put. Since it is based upon extensive research and evidence. YOUR case of "human nature", and "genetics" are nothing more than cop-out arguments that are based on ZERO evidence or examination.

Besides I still was able to reply to YOUR "nonsense" which by the way you cannot back-up with any evidence.

Your supposition that I have posted "nonsense" is a very, very weak excuse, and it fails to mask the fact that you have realised that you CANNOT disprove the evidence that I have provided. Therefore its easier to try to delude yourself, and also anyone who reads this thread that I have only posted something intellectually irrelevant and that you do not feel the need to respond. Its easier to save face and mask your inability to debunk my points by invalidating my argument.

I'll bet that you haven't even bothered to view any of my evidence, have you?


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30 Jun 2011, 8:08 am

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I'll bet that you haven't even bothered to view any of my evidence, have you?


I do not bother much with flat-earthers, creationists, alien abductionists, conspiracy theorists and such like folks.

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30 Jun 2011, 8:48 am

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I do not bother much with flat-earthers, creationists, alien abductionists, conspiracy theorists and such like folks.

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Ahhh, nope, I'm not one of those. Sorry. Such a list is therefore irrelevant to your comment to me. Interesting that you conveniently avoid addressing the rest of my post. This is proof that you are incapable and hense unwilling to address the issues that I have raised. So please, if you wish to converse with me, bring something of substance to the table.


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