who are the new Nazis

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who are the most likely to be the new Nazi's

Occupy Wall street	3%	[ 1 ]
The Tea Party	23%	[ 9 ]
Neo-Nazi's	18%	[ 7 ]
Israel	5%	[ 2 ]
Muslims!! !	5%	[ 2 ]
Obama supporters	5%	[ 2 ]
Evangelical Christians	8%	[ 3 ]
A.C.O.R.N.	5%	[ 2 ]
Other (please state in the thread)	30%	[ 12 ]

Total votes : 40

Inuyasha
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11 Oct 2011, 2:03 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:

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I suggest you look at the plot of Atlas Shrugged, which seems to show the evils of Government controlling everything.

There is no "seems". That is one of the things Ayn Rand did with her long novel. Philosophically it is an attack on altruism as the basis of morality.

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Putting a gun to one's head to get them to practice "altruism" is not altruism it is slavery.

Altruism is a good thing, but a person must choose of their own free will to be altruistic, when government gets involved it is not longer altruism.

Which would mean you disagree with miss Rand on that point. To her all Altruism is a lie and a sin against the self.

Which I pointed out that Ayn Rand makes some good points, even if some of her other philosophies are off.

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11 Oct 2011, 2:30 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

I suggest you look at the plot of Atlas Shrugged, which seems to show the evils of Government controlling everything.

There is no "seems". That is one of the things Ayn Rand did with her long novel. Philosophically it is an attack on altruism as the basis of morality.

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Which would mean you disagree with miss Rand on that point. To her all Altruism is a lie and a sin against the self.

Which I pointed out that Ayn Rand makes some good points, even if some of her other philosophies are off.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxFYSB0vmag&feature=related[/youtube]
she explains it quite well.

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11 Oct 2011, 2:40 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxFYSB0vmag&feature=related[/youtube]
she explains it quite well.

I've had the chance to watch the three-part with Wallace before and there was one point I agreed with her on, that the best and brightest who pulled us out of the jungle should be given what they need to advance us further. Past that though - she laid out her thinking in such an absolutist black and white manner that it would almost seem as if, to a perhaps more reasonable person, she wanted to map out an extrema to be analysed and discussed later on in history as an additional pole on the scale of economic possibilities.

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11 Oct 2011, 3:58 pm

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It's kind of like saying water's wet. He started a pole based on a hyperbole and it seems like the message to the effect your stating is reverberating in a more between-the-lines sort of way. Just looking at the poll results it seems like most people are either agreeing with you or endulging their own hyperbole.

I don't disagree with you. But sometimes self-evident truths still need to be pointed out!

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11 Oct 2011, 4:23 pm

I understand, do it plenty myself.

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11 Oct 2011, 6:33 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

It's kind of like saying water's wet. .

Water in the solid state is NOT wet.

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11 Oct 2011, 7:07 pm

This topic has gotten rather boring.

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12 Oct 2011, 4:23 am

ruveyn wrote:

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

It's kind of like saying water's wet. .

Water in the solid state is NOT wet.

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Water in the solid state is often wet. Not only haven't you played with enough heavy water reactors, and but still maybe be out to buy "cold fussion" again, you haven't met boiling frozen water at very low pressures (somewhat "stranger" than dry ice). Ice still "flows" and "runs" like liquid water, but very slow (it can "run" uphill too!!).

Joker wrote:

This topic has gotten rather boring.

ruveyn really livened it up on another forum:

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Gedrene wrote:

A Ponzi Scheme is a device whereby a person accepts money and promises to deliver a product. The scheme is to them make other people give their money to the people above in the Ponzi Hierarchy and thus get access to the non-existent product.

Social Provision is where a government uses taxes to pay for services that act as a safety net for the poor or for redistribution.

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It still comes down to plundering the best to help the less good.

Taxation is theft. Let us have as little of it as possible.

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Kraichgauer wrote:

What makes them less good? I thought the core of western civilization was the belief that all human beings are of equal worth.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Dumber, lazier, less ambitious, less focused. We are not all equal.

Each of us should be free to seek the level at which we operate optimally.

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If I remember which book is which, "The Fall" by Camus philosophizes who the new-Nazis are in one class, with failed Humanism as a defective Nihilistic connection falling way short of the "element" of Existentialism. All of Dostoevsky is much easier to understand, but I have the temporal lobe epilepsy idiot pass-card to Dostoevsky.

The other main class of new Nazi is devolved from Milton Friedman and the fact of all that is "Beyond Freedom and Dignity", despite the $$$Dollar-Sign$$$ funeral wreath from Greenspan giving Ayn Rand immortality in the Bank Vault.

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12 Oct 2011, 6:58 am

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So copyright is wrong?

Copyright is all right. But it should expire 20 years after the author's death (like it was supposed to do) . And fair use must be ensured. The copyright lobby want copyright to last forever and push for laws that kill fair use. We are effectively in a new book-burning era thanks to them.

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