Teabaggers call for business owners not to hire anyone

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All you have to do is lie on your resume and you will get the job.

Resumes can be checked out and very often are. What you say is simply not the case.

ruveyn

You need a friend that while unable to hire you is willing to say you worked for him and did a great job.

For those employers determined only to hire people not on the bench too long that ploy probably won't work.

ruveyn

It takes companies years to catch up with me when I write a resume. One company demanded that I show them proof of a steady employment history of working for one company for at least a year. So I dug up records showing proof of employment for 12 non consecutive months over a period of 6 years. On some months I only worked for the company for 8 hours because I was fired but it counted as a month of employment.

There is a position open on my team right now. I helped interview candidates.

The first interview was a guy who's resume was GREAT.

And he couldn't back up anything on it.

I'm sure he works in the same industry i do, he just probably hops from large company to large company, whenever he can find one where either HR insists on doing all hiring or the technical people are too lazy to get involved, where he can wallow in base mediocrity and fail to get any useful work done for a year or more before someone gets annoyed enough to do the paperwork to fire him.

We will not be talking to him again.

My advice? Don't lie about anything on your resume that you can't bullsh!t your way through in an interview with people who do the job you are applying to do.

Oh, and most companies are so afraid of litigation today that there are only two meaningful questions they can answer without exposing themselves:

1: Between what dates did this person work for your company?
2: Is this person eligible for re-hire with your company?

The second one is the kicker. Because if you got fired, the answer is "No".

That's a terrible idea! Those teabaggers are really putting their **** in their mouth with this one.






Foot! It's foot!

I think he means in relation to whether you are employed or not. Which I'd say is the only thing you can do if companies are going with that BS discrimination against unemployed.

IMHO, employment will die. It is obsolete. It will be replaced with independent consulting (if you are lucky) or informal jobs. It will suck for all of us, but such is life.

I don't know about that. Some companies still see the value of talent retention.

The place i work at, our software application has existed for 17 years (you've never heard of it), and i have some coworkers who have been with it the whole 17 years.

I was brought in as a contractor to finish out the last 3 months of a 6 month contract of an incompetent lump of clay who had been sacked. 18 months later they converted me to full time. I've now been there three years and change, and right now my biggest problem in life is getting fingered for promotion into middle management.

We recently converted the last two contractors on my team to full time. There are 2 contractors on another team in the office, one of which has been there 4 years, and we are working on converting both of them. We converted the other two in that department a while back, and hired two more FTE just this month.

It's a small office of a big company (5000+ employees world wide) that you probably hear about from time to time without realizing it (But seriously, you never heard of the specific part of it i work for - not because it's secret, but because it's boring). There are several layers of corporate abstraction between me and the top, but the guy 2nd down from the top asserts that we Do Not Rely On Contractors Anymore. Sometimes HR strenuously disagrees, but we're trying.

And why do we try? Because the specific sort of work we do and the specifics of our application mean that Knowing Stuff that people outside of our organization have no reason to know, is very valuable. Losing people with product knowledge hurts us a lot.

If you have a job where anyone with the right resume can sit down and do the same job inside of a week, I feel sorry for you.

To some extent, I've had to do that.

When I got laid of several years back, I listed ALL of my education on applications. No bites. I left off my law school later. Same employer offered me a job.

I feel you can argue that you ARE NOT obligated to tell an employer ALL of your credentials. You only must be honest about the ones you disclose. So what if you are way overqualified. If your intention is to show up and do your job faithfully, his only concern is your taking off next week for a better job. IMHO (In My Honest Opinion), if you were in a position to get a better offer next week, you'd not be applying for the job you are way overqualified for.

In my current situation, I am my own boss. I run my own company and it is paid by my chief client for services I render. I've found it easier to just say I'm working for the same "employer" since we first started our association. I think "self-employed" is just a step better than saying you are unemployed in seeking opportunity.

That is a very good point. A good interviewer has a built in b.s. meter that works.

ruveyn

A business owner that "strikes" in this way is disadvantaging himself to the scabs
in a much more profound way then a union member does.
They obviously have not worked it through.

This is pretty much standard practice today. It's quite unfortunate. Rather than imposing anti-discrimination laws, maybe it would be better to offer incentives for hiring people who are currently unemployed. I think, actually, this might have happened or is happening (tax credits or something), but clearly the incentives haven't been enough to really incentivise (is that even a word?).

For now, the advise is generally to do anything possible to not give the image of a lazy bum on the couch. Work, even without pay, any way possible. Volunteering is ok, but interning or pro-bono work is even better. Even if you just pick up a commission-only job (those are very easy to find), it's something you can put as "current" on your resume.

If you don't have anything to put down for the current year, you're really just wasting your time. No one's gonna even look at it. It really does suck out there.

Teabaggers? Prostitutes still need John's with money - they don't get that without jobs.

There's a perception that if you have been out of work you are either rusty or lazy or you were laid off because you were never that good to begin with.

And that's true for some people.

A lot of people are taking the internship route, to the point where most companies that have interns are maxed out on interns.

Also, the legal definition of an internship sort of requires that the knowledge gained by the intern should be more valuable than the work the intern does for the company. And the department of labor is stepping up enforcement on that.

It's rough out there. I'm glad I am both gainfully employed and upwardly mobile.

Does Melissa Brookstone speak for the entire Tea Party movement?

ruveyn