Male infant circumcision is safe and benificial

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28 Oct 2011, 4:27 pm

So upon whom does the burden of proof lie here?

Neither side can make a compelling case, so it seems to me that we are right back to the place where parents (who are, after all, the only people competent to make these choices) are free to decide whether or not to have their sons circumcised.


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28 Oct 2011, 4:38 pm

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Many dangers are listed on, and around, page 294 (books-google go search of "crying seqelae" when open).

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How did the Jews ever survive three milenia?

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By adapting accordingly to the nations they came to inhabit.

And practicing circumcision the whole time. Apparently circumcision is not all that fatal.

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This is stupid. There are races out there who did not circumcise either, this correlation is BS.


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28 Oct 2011, 5:58 pm

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This is stupid. There are races out there who did not circumcise either, this correlation is BS.


So circumcision and non-circumcision have low morbidity. Take your choice.

The non- circumcised do suffer from the Curse of Smegma, however.

And their tools look the same as the tools of doggies. Which is why they are sometimes called non circumcised dogs. I am a human so I want a human looking tool.

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28 Oct 2011, 6:45 pm

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And their tools look the same as the tools of doggies. Which is why they are sometimes called non circumcised dogs. I am a human so I want a human looking tool.


WTF? I think that this thread has officially reached the limits of stupidity, I declare it dead. Pipe down old man and take your pills.


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28 Oct 2011, 6:53 pm

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The non- circumcised do suffer from the Curse of Smegma, however.

For someone who prides himself on his logic and reasoning ability you seem to have an enormous amount of difficulty grasping this simple truth.

No, we do not suffer from any such curse.

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And their tools look the same as the tools of doggies. Which is why they are sometimes called non circumcised dogs. I am a human so I want a human looking tool.

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You have either never seen a dog's penis or you are flat out lieing. Hilarious though, that you think cutting off a natural part of a human penis somehow makes it look more human. You're just adrift in the middle of a vast ocean of cultural bias, swatting away every lifeline thrown your way and I'd weep for you if it wasn't so entertaining.


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28 Oct 2011, 7:16 pm

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The non- circumcised do suffer from the Curse of Smegma,

What's with circumcision that is making you behave like a Inuyasha-level sort of propaganda meister? I mean seriously, dude.

As if you didn't read my previous post about THE CURSE OF SMEGMA. I am uncircumcised, I know smegma, I clean it. It is really nothing. To anyone else wondering: No, I don't live constantly cursing my life for having to clean smegma. It has not affected my life beyond having to spend 5 extra seconds cleaning my penis during showers and since penis has evolved to make you feel good when you touch it, cleaning it is the opposite of a discomfort/annoyance.

ruveyn touting that smegma is a curse is as silly of an argument as anti-circumcision people claiming that losing your foreskin makes you have worse quality sex. It is just... dumb. As an uncircumcised guy, it would be dumb for me to profess high knowledge about how it feels not to have a foreskin. It would be dumb for me to assume that ruveyn feels less pleasure during sex because I in no way have any idea what is it like not to have a foreskin. For ruveyn it is the same thing, he can't really with a straight face and come to tell you that it is "a curse" to have to clean smegma every time then, because he has no idea what is it like...

The way I see this is like a guy that has never had a bed trying to scare people about how uncomfortable beds are because you have to make your bed everyday.


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28 Oct 2011, 7:22 pm

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The way I see this is like a guy that has never had a bed trying to scare people about the badness of owning a bed because you have to make it everyday.


Excellent.


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28 Oct 2011, 7:34 pm

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The non- circumcised do suffer from the Curse of Smegma,

What's with circumcision that is making you behave like a Inuyasha-level sort of propaganda meister? I mean seriously, dude.

As if you didn't read my previous post about THE CURSE OF SMEGMA. I am uncircumcised, I know smegma, I clean it. It is really nothing. To anyone else wondering: No, I don't live constantly cursing my life for having to clean smegma. It has not affected my life beyond having to spend 5 extra seconds cleaning my penis during showers and since penis has evolved to make you feel good when you touch it, cleaning it is the opposite of a discomfort/annoyance.

ruveyn touting that smegma is a curse is as silly of an argument as anti-circumcision people claiming that losing your foreskin makes you have worse quality sex. It is just... dumb. As an uncircumcised guy, it would be dumb for me to profess high knowledge about how it feels not to have a foreskin. It would be dumb for me to assume that ruveyn feels less pleasure during sex because I in no way have any idea what is it like not to have a foreskin. For ruveyn it is the same thing, he can't really with a straight face and come to tell you that it is "a curse" to have to clean smegma every time then, because he has no idea what is it like...

The way I see this is like a guy that has never had a bed trying to scare people about how uncomfortable beds are because you have to make your bed everyday.


What, pray tell, is smegma?

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28 Oct 2011, 7:47 pm

It is a natural lubricant that works very well but is accumulated in your foreskin and you have to clean it once in a while.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smegma


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28 Oct 2011, 7:52 pm

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It is a natural lubricant that works very well but is accumulated in your foreskin and you have to clean it once in a while.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smegma


Natural lubricant? As in for providing comfort while engaging in sex? Or do I just have my head in the gutter?

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28 Oct 2011, 9:09 pm

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What, pray tell, is smegma?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
A substance oozed out from inside the foreskin. When it dries it looks like the Cottage Cheese From Hell. I remember when I was a kid in high school. Men's swimming class was in the buff (male only). The swim coach had all the uncircumcised students pull back their foreskins to show that they were not bringing smegma into the swimming pool. In fact we had a nick name for the coach. We called him Skin-Back. Us circumcised folk did not have to do this humiliating thing because our cleanliness was apparent.

A clean tool is a happy tool, a ready for the pool tool. God loves a clean tool which is why He imposes the commandment of circumcision on His chosen people.

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28 Oct 2011, 9:16 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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What, pray tell, is smegma?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
A substance oozed out from inside the foreskin. When it dries it looks like the Cottage Cheese From Hell. I remember when I was a kid in high school. Men's swimming class was in the buff (male only). The swim coach had all the uncircumcised students pull back their foreskins to show that they were not bringing smegma into the swimming pool. In fact we had a nick name for the coach. We called him Skin-Back. Us circumcised folk did not have to do this humiliating thing because our cleanliness was apparent.

A clean tool is a happy tool, a ready for the pool tool. God loves a clean tool which is why He imposes the commandment of circumcision on His chosen people.

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Well, ol' Skin Back would have been happy with me, as I had been snipped back when I was a baby.

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28 Oct 2011, 9:20 pm

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Well, ol' Skin Back would have been happy with me, as I had been snipped back when I was a baby.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


So I assumed. If you were intact you would have known of the Curse of Smegma. You are one of the Saved and you have the same kind of tool as your Lord and Savior. Christians should know that God was circumcised well before Abraham.

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28 Oct 2011, 9:40 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

What, pray tell, is smegma?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
A substance oozed out from inside the foreskin. When it dries it looks like the Cottage Cheese From Hell. I remember when I was a kid in high school. Men's swimming class was in the buff (male only). The swim coach had all the uncircumcised students pull back their foreskins to show that they were not bringing smegma into the swimming pool. In fact we had a nick name for the coach. We called him Skin-Back. Us circumcised folk did not have to do this humiliating thing because our cleanliness was apparent.

A clean tool is a happy tool, a ready for the pool tool. God loves a clean tool which is why He imposes the commandment of circumcision on His chosen people.

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I had a university coach that demanded no hair in the pool, whether hair on the head or anywhere else.

I never was in that pool over my Becker's Nevus. Since it is related to a sclerosis disorder strongly correlated with epilepsy and autism disorders, I would now seek protection from discrimination under the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Years before this, any males that shaved anywhere but their face, or used any depilatories, were often belted with rocks by people proclaiming directions from a God.

Now, many swim events require team enemas before the event, again, with coach evaluation of compliance.

Also, anything for stronger Home-Land Security!! !

Any dedicated choir member should be willing to join the castrati too???
Some individuals under the Gods loved Farinelli a little more than enough.

Is there something called "Disparate Impact" prohibited by Law???

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28 Oct 2011, 9:48 pm

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Well, ol' Skin Back would have been happy with me, as I had been snipped back when I was a baby.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


So I assumed. If you were intact you would have known of the Curse of Smegma. You are one of the Saved and you have the same kind of tool as your Lord and Savior. Christians should know that God was circumcised well before Abraham.

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Indeed he was :wink:



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28 Oct 2011, 10:01 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Well, ol' Skin Back would have been happy with me, as I had been snipped back when I was a baby.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


So I assumed. If you were intact you would have known of the Curse of Smegma. You are one of the Saved and you have the same kind of tool as your Lord and Savior. Christians should know that God was circumcised well before Abraham.

ruveyn


Praise ye the Lord!

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