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09 Dec 2011, 6:02 am

Neither the Democrats or Republicans are worth voting for. I just pick a random 3rd party candidate to say "screw you" to the 2-party system.



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09 Dec 2011, 10:16 am

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Neither the Democrats or Republicans are worth voting for. I just pick a random 3rd party candidate to say "screw you" to the 2-party system.


That has exactly the same effect on the outcome as not voting at all.

If neither party can put up a decent candidate, I am going on strike.

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09 Dec 2011, 10:52 am

ruveyn wrote:
Cyanide wrote:
Neither the Democrats or Republicans are worth voting for. I just pick a random 3rd party candidate to say "screw you" to the 2-party system.


That has exactly the same effect on the outcome as not voting at all.

If neither party can put up a decent candidate, I am going on strike.

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I'll just start working on my Manderine and look forward to having a communist official as a wife.


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09 Dec 2011, 11:50 am

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And I am going to walk around wearing a shirt that says Boycott the presidential election!! !! !! !

might as well. both parties are essentially the same. how is it a democracy when you get to pick between two identical parties. its obvious why the republicans suck but obama sucks because:
guantanamo is still open for buisiness
doma has not been repealed
he upped the number of troops in iraq and afghanistan
he has carried out many imperialist projects elsewhere
he has deported more undocumented migrants than bush, etc

there should be a 3rd option that represents the working class and is actually left wing.


There should be a 3rd option that supports everyone not just those who have working class status, I have to point out some people are below that and they need help..........but yes the working class should be getting decent money for all that work they do but a lot of times they don't. That is what my dad ran into quite a lot.

But yes Obama does kinda suck.



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09 Dec 2011, 4:52 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Cyanide wrote:
Neither the Democrats or Republicans are worth voting for. I just pick a random 3rd party candidate to say "screw you" to the 2-party system.


That has exactly the same effect on the outcome as not voting at all.

If neither party can put up a decent candidate, I am going on strike.

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Does it really matter? No matter which party gets elected, they're going to continue the same agenda.



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09 Dec 2011, 7:00 pm

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Does it really matter? No matter which party gets elected, they're going to continue the same agenda.


Most likely. We need a viable third party to get out of this cul de sac.

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09 Dec 2011, 7:01 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Cyanide wrote:
Does it really matter? No matter which party gets elected, they're going to continue the same agenda.


Most likely. We need a viable third party to get out of this cul de sac.

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All a third party will do is divide the opposition vote.



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09 Dec 2011, 7:02 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Cyanide wrote:
Does it really matter? No matter which party gets elected, they're going to continue the same agenda.


Most likely. We need a viable third party to get out of this cul de sac.

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All a third party will do is divide the opposition vote.


Not necessarily. It made a big difference in 1860.

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09 Dec 2011, 7:15 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Cyanide wrote:
Does it really matter? No matter which party gets elected, they're going to continue the same agenda.


Most likely. We need a viable third party to get out of this cul de sac.

ruveyn


All a third party will do is divide the opposition vote.


Not necessarily. It made a big difference in 1860.

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ruveyn, we have pretty good candidates already, I know you want Ron Paul (whom would be arguably just as bad if not worse than Obama), but he's not getting elected.

Any man that doesn't see what is the problem with a homicidal maniac having control of nuclear weapons, is not qualified to be President.



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09 Dec 2011, 7:56 pm

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Any man that doesn't see what is the problem with a homicidal maniac having control of nuclear weapons, is not qualified to be President.


I'm against Rick Perry, too.



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09 Dec 2011, 8:02 pm

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Any man that doesn't see what is the problem with a homicidal maniac having control of nuclear weapons, is not qualified to be President.


I'm against Rick Perry, too.


Rick Perry at least understands the point I'm bringing up, I think he's a total moron otherwise, that said a total moron is better than someone whom is deliberately trying to wreck the country.



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09 Dec 2011, 8:57 pm

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Any man that doesn't see what is the problem with a homicidal maniac having control of nuclear weapons, is not qualified to be President.


I'm against Rick Perry, too.


Rick Perry at least understands the point I'm bringing up, I think he's a total moron otherwise, that said a total moron is better than someone whom is deliberately trying to wreck the country.


Rick Perry is not a total moron, but he is a homicidal maniac, to whom control of nuclear weapons should not be given.



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09 Dec 2011, 9:20 pm

pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
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Inuyasha wrote:
Any man that doesn't see what is the problem with a homicidal maniac having control of nuclear weapons, is not qualified to be President.


I'm against Rick Perry, too.


Rick Perry at least understands the point I'm bringing up, I think he's a total moron otherwise, that said a total moron is better than someone whom is deliberately trying to wreck the country.


Rick Perry is not a total moron, but he is a homicidal maniac, to whom control of nuclear weapons should not be given.


Seriously, don't make accusations like that when you can't back it up.



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09 Dec 2011, 11:31 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Any man that doesn't see what is the problem with a homicidal maniac having control of nuclear weapons, is not qualified to be President.


I'm against Rick Perry, too.


Rick Perry at least understands the point I'm bringing up, I think he's a total moron otherwise, that said a total moron is better than someone whom is deliberately trying to wreck the country.


Rick Perry is not a total moron, but he is a homicidal maniac, to whom control of nuclear weapons should not be given.


Seriously, don't make accusations like that when you can't back it up.


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The amount of executions held in Texas during Gov. Rick Perry’s (R) 11 years in office has come under scrutiny in the early stages of his presidential campaign, most notably for the case of Cameron Todd Willingham, who was convicted of murdering his three daughters and put to death despite evidence showing that he was likely innocent of the crimes. But even as the Willingham case receives the most notice, many of Perry’s decisions regarding execution have begun to garner attention.

Texas has held 234 executions on Perry’s watch, more than the next two states combined have executed since the death penalty was restored 35 years ago. While Perry can only grant clemency from death sentences if it is recommended by the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles, he has rarely used that power. According to the Texas Tribune, Perry has commuted only 31 death sentences, and 28 of those resulted from a 2005 Supreme Court case outlawing the execution of juveniles. Meanwhile, he has allowed a host of controversial executions to go forward, the Tribune reported today:

JUVENILES: According to the Tribune, three people who were juveniles at the time of their crime were executed between 2000, when Perry took office, and 2005, when the Supreme Court banned the execution of juveniles. Before Napoleon Beazley, who committed a murder at 17, was executed, 18 state legislators wrote Perry asking him to grant clemency, and the trial judge who eventually had to sign his execution order asked Perry to commute the sentence to life in prison. Perry’s response: “To delay his punishment is to delay justice.”

MENTALLY DISABLED: Ten executions during Perry’s tenure have involved serious questions about the prisoner’s mental health and stability. One was Kelsey Patterson, who was judged as mentally fit by a doctor known as “Dr. Death” because he rarely found patients mentally unfit for trial. During his trial, Patterson testified about having devices planted in his head by the military, and once in prison, he sent incoherent letters to courts. The Board of Pardons and Paroles recommended to Perry that he grant clemency, but Perry rejected the recommendation. Another was James Clark, whose final statement was, “Howdy.” Two Texas prisoners with mental health concerns have been executed in 2011.

INADEQUATE COUNSEL: Five men executed since 2000 have had major questions about the adequacy of their legal counsel, including Leonard Uresti Rojas. The appellate attorney appointed to Rojas was on probation with the state bar, suffered from mental illness and missed multiple deadlines to file appeals on Rojas’ behalf. New attorneys took Rojas’ case before the Court of Appeals asked Perry to stay the execution but were denied. After the execution, an appeals court judge wrote a dissenting opinion against the court, saying Rojas’ attorney had “neglected his duties.”

In addition, Perry has overseen the executions of seven foreign nationals and two men who were accomplices but did not actually commit murder.


Seriously, let's keep this "total moral" away from our nuclear weapons.

He wants to dismantle the Department of Energy, which oversees our nuclear weapons. He hasn't said what he is going to do with the nuclear weapons once he gets rid of the Department of Energy. Maybe he will just blow up the world to see if Jesus comes and raptures him.



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Hmm, well at least the man has taste in firearms; that appears to be a Colt 1873 Single Action Army or a replica thereof. I suppose if you're the governor of Texas you'd practically have to own one those things, the state and the gun are so interlinked that in Mexico one doesn't ask for a Colt Peacemaker but a Pistola Tejana.


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Hmm, well at least the man has taste in firearms; that appears to be a Colt 1873 Single Action Army or a replica thereof. I suppose if you're the governor of Texas you'd practically have to own one those things, the state and the gun are so interlinked that in Mexico one doesn't ask for a Colt Peacemaker but a Pistola Tejana.


But look at the boots! Gross!

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