Cain accused again

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Well, my dad died of stage-IV cancer, and he was so immobile near the end, that his sunken body was barely visible against the hospital bed he was in. My best friend's great aunt died of it too, and he also remembers the horrifying aspect of having walked into her hospital room, seeing the hospital bed she was on, and then having to turn to the nurse to ask, perplexed, "Where is she?" Both this friend and I experienced this phenomenon -- of not seeing a deathly-ill person who was right in front of us. Gives one an idea of how lifeless stage-IV cancer victims can be.

Last edited by Ragtime on 01 Dec 2011, 11:04 am, edited 2 times in total.

Sorry, but this doesn't excuse Herman at all.

Not from certain idiotic beliefs of others, no. Not even the morally-perfect man, Jesus, was excused from the stupidity of those Roman and Jewish leaders who had Him executed. If even infinite wisdom does not convince infinite fools, then an innocent man can easily be and stay forever guilty in the eyes of others, such as yourself.

Are you comparing Herman to Jesus? You're way out of line.

Dang, why don't you surprise me for once? At least make your deliberate misstatements of my points unpredictable.

Are you comparing Herman to Hitler? You're way in line.

Obama has a laundry list of character issues...only one involving marital infidelity...but all as pertinent or more so than the allegations being made against Cain.

I'm really sorry about your Dad, and your friend's Aunt. I lost my Dad to renal failure back in '96.
As for Cain, it must be remembered, he did in fact survive his cancer, so he doubtlessly hadn't sunk so physically as low.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Uh huh.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I dislike Obama just as much as anyone and actually know why beyond just what FNC says but as far as personal issues, Barack Obama seems like a pretty straight and narrow guy AFAIK.

Just another day in the life of the "News" storytellers.

I think it's pretty funny that you repugnicans think there is any substantive connection between obama and ayers or rezko or wright or the fast & furious thing.

The bush administration was fooled by solyndra too. Handing out money to unworkable projects is a systemic issue in washington.

But it's cool with you if your candidate is a serial groper, right?

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

One thing I always try to do in my posts is "keep it real" -- while it's clear a lot of other posters don't.
About this latest revelation that Cain was a frequently money-lending friend to this ne'er-do-well Ginger White, without telling his wife -- as a married man myself, the "without telling his wife" part is a real no-no. That's the only part I have a problem with. (Although I would say that it is also unwise to keep giving a perpetual money-pit like Ginger more and more money to flush away -- much the way we taxpayers do for the U.S. government.)

I think the relationship was simply that -- a friendship involving frequent money loans and nothing else. BUT, he should definitely have told his wife, both that Ginger was a friend, and that he was loaning her money. I mean, if it's innocent, and you're wise, you tell your spouse. Or, if your spouse if the type to "blow up" about such matters, simply STOP LOANING MONEY and being so close a friend to that friend. So, either he wasn't innocent or he wasn't wise. I think what we're talking about is: inordinate emotional involvement with another woman. It can sneak up on you, because it's easy not to see a friendship attachment growing into a deeper and deeper friendship -- one that seriously merits you telling your spouse. That's my view, anyway. My wife and I are more open with each other than most couples I've observed seemed comfortable being with each other. It's not a "thought-hiding game", like most relationships are, and I'm grateful that we have that kind of mutual understanding that we can be that comfortable talking about our innermost thoughts.

But again, so far, what we're talking about here is something that went too far emotionally, which is the easiest trap to fall into unaware. Sometimes if you're concentrating on not crossing physical barriers, you can think you're doing alright. Then an invisible emotional barrier is crossed. Both my wife and I have experienced it, discussed them, and know it's simply a human failing that, as long as it's reversed in each case, is not a problem. I think Cain got too comfortable playing the role of the kind money lender. He should have told his wife, for sure. Even just before this, though, he wasn't poised lately to win the nomination, so it may not have actually hurt his chances.

As a Christian, he could have been mulling over Matt 5:42:

Boy are you knaive.

At the bottom you can see an interview where Ginger apologizes to Herman's wife and family

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la ... 6019.story