Christo-fascists harass High School Student

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NeantHumain wrote:

Very well said! Your first sentence was so spot on I didn’t see the need to read the rest of your post.

PM wrote:

If you want to call something petty like a banner a civil rights violation then, yes.

Master_Pedant wrote:

Does the phrase “comparing apples to oranges” mean anything to you?
So you’re comparing denial of black voter rights, school segregation, “Whites Only” public facilities, and general persecution on a grand scale with one each banner in one each school that one each snotty little tart took offense with just because she could?
The simple fact is that you’re not rational. I always suspected it but here’s the evidence.

BuyerBeware wrote:

Sounds like a good idea to me but of course it won’t be good enough those other people.

GoonSquad wrote:

Absolutely!


Master_Pedant wrote:
and other words of wisdom about the south.
Being in Winnipeg can I assume that by “southern” and “south” that you’re talking about southern Manitoba or southern Ontario? Because I have no idea why you would even want to know about or care about the southern United States as much as it might appear to some.
No history or politics of your own beloved Canada to wring your hands over, aye?

Kraichgauer wrote:

I hadn’t noticed but if I do I doubt it’ll cost me any sleep.

Master_Pedant wrote:

And the reaction to that would be a stronger right wing to counter it. This country is still conservative at heart and that won’t change for a long time if ever.


GoonSquad wrote:

The heathens fail to realize that this county is peppered with Christian churches and every Sunday people go to them. Believe it or not, a good many of them actually take it to heart.

Well that should do it for now…..

You're claim that she was wrong for "being disruptive". You never added the caveat that sometimes social disruption is justified or quantified the threshold. Write more clearly next time.



Yeah, I guess that interpretation makes great sense. Right in the middle of a debate on why US Working Class voters don't lean more heavily to the Democrats, I'd bring Southern Manitoba into the mix.

By the way, I've actually started more then my fair share of threads on Canadian politics.



Despite poll results showing the unpopularity of various "conservative" policies.

Mainly because other social conservative candidates took away her votes.

Like I said, Republicans live in their own little world where they are somehow convinced they're popular.

It's a little bit sad, really.

Yeah, you're view totally makes sense. Those atheist zealots are why working class Southern whites vote Republican, not because of anything else. Gay marriage and gay abortion totally aren't issues, even though Southern Politicians demagogue about how bad they are to know end (I guess to an audience of death ears).

Meanwhile, in the world of intersubjectively verifiable statistics (as opposed to GoonSquad's unrepresentative social network):

http://www.gallup.com/poll/128291/ameri ... ightly.asp

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147734/Ameri ... Lines.aspx

Also funny that removing prayer banners is equivalent to "Jesus Bashing".

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Then you have never left the west. Try being Christian in China, or pretty anywhere outside of the west. As to atheists who blow things up, I guess you have never heard of the Society of Militant Atheists.

Master_Pedant wrote:

Because in THIS case we were talking about the banner thing. I’m obviously not going to include the entire scope and history of social disruption just for this.
Use your common sense.


Master_Pedant wrote:

Glad you like it. There's hope yet.

Master_Pedant wrote:

Only an idiot takes political or opinion polling as definitive. Are you so naïve as to believe that they aren’t done creatively to back the poll sponsor’s agenda?

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I have never left the west, but I do read world politics. Most attacks on christians are committed by other religions, muslims are a big offender there.

The Society of Militant Atheists, USSR wasn't it? Helped along by the government?

Okay, Raptor, than answer me this: Were Early Christians clearly in the wrong because of their disruptive practice of smashing Pagan statues? That's a lot less civil than going through the courts to take down a banner, after all - it's more like burning the banner.

From what I know of it, Yes.



Stop being a douchebag already.
The point is that the banner was taken down to appease one (1) individual out of an entire student body because she (with the help of the ACLU , apparently ) claims that the banner was unconstitutional.
They should have left it up and she should have cowboy’d up to the fact that others that don't share her athiest victim mentality do share the same school and gotten over it. She’s going to become a professional victim and a poster girl for the ACLU.

This is my position, it has been my position, and will continue to be my position no matter how many inane ways you think of to rephrase the question or how much you whine about it.
Call me a Christ-o-fascist, call me a Nazi, call me a bully, call me a conservative pig or whatever because coming from you it’s a compliment and I think others are starting to see you for what you are.

Pretty much every ideology oppresses Christians. China, Vietnam and North Korea are pretty regular offenders. You are correct that Islam is certainly a standout in that area. As for the Militant Atheists in the USSR, they were connected in some ways to the Governemnt. But so what? They were atheists, killing clergy and faithful in the name of atheism and communism. If Christians have to take responsibility for the unchristian acts that they commit, en so do atheism, anything else would be blatent special pleading.

Fair enough, I was wrong. Atheists can be nutjobs too.

However, it *is* true that religious people do so far more often.

As far as christians being oppressed, you mean like how christians oppress homosexuals?

Well, your Republican friends are scared s**tless. In fact, they are so afraid to use the word capitalism that they fall back to calling it free enterprise.
And while it's true that churches are all over this country, despite what evangelicals like telling themselves, most are Mainline denominations who aren't obsessed with right wind secular politics.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

No, he means like how christians of one sect oppress christians of other sects.

Don't you feel a little bit of cognitive dissonance over having an eagle and American flag as your avatar at the same time as you sneer over the constitution?

Kraichgauer wrote:

Maybe on your home planet of Tralfamadore but not where I live. It’s not the kind of thing that this conservative would lose sleep over, anyway. Even if socialism is the flavor of the week that does not necessarily define the future of this nation.
****CAPITALISM**** There, I said it.


No, but most of them won’t put up with having their religion and their savior attacked in the name of progress for long, either. Not at the polls, anyway.
That’s what the gist of my reply was in response to if you’d read it.
Go ahead and come back with something, though. I know you can’t rest until you do.