13 Feb 2012, 10:00 am
13 Feb 2012, 10:20 am
techstepgenr8tion
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13 Feb 2012, 10:26 am
13 Feb 2012, 11:01 am
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Fair. I think though, if we really want to try installing a third party though, we'd have to put a considerable amount of effort into giving them a name, giving them an identity, and really selling them as a new group... If that party could catch on we may have a shot at a third party president...
Personally, I'd like to see a new electoral system based upon the proportional representation model.
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
On some of your concerns though my biggest is having a crap GHWB type stand-in who no one's feeling, who gets in, does very mediocre, we have a watershed in both 2014 and 2016, and from there its an eight-year democrat with democrat house and senate and we even end up worse off than 2008.
Unfortunately, I think that's going to be inevitable regardless of who wins.
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
What I'm crossing my fingers on is that, if we have a RINO sleeping at the wheel that the tea party will ride his arse and not let him slide on it.
Perhaps, but to what end?
I admittedly do not hold the tea party in especially high regard nowadays.
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13 Feb 2012, 11:18 am
CoMF wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
What I'm crossing my fingers on is that, if we have a RINO sleeping at the wheel that the tea party will ride his arse and not let him slide on it.
Perhaps, but to what end?
I admittedly do not hold the tea party in especially high regard nowadays.
A lot of em feel cornered though, knowing that the Republican party is really all they have to work with and from that extent they're also pretty well connected to their base and the calls that they get in from their base and association will light a candle under their feet and they'll in turn pass the courtesy up. I don't that I'd be the person to come up with a series of hypothetical scenarios where Romney might veer off point and the tea party candidates or other small gov't conservatives might catch him but I see the motivational structure in place much like this year's CPAC introduced me to quite an array of loudmouths and political muckrakers who look like they're looking to make their own counter to Axelrod's team. I get the impression that they intend to be a thorough pain in the ass to whoever ends up in office.
14 Feb 2012, 10:53 am
Raptor wrote:
marshall wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
The notion that social security is going to go broke any time in the near future is a bunch of crap produced from the hind quarters of conservatives. Social security is the most successful government program yet. What would you suggest it be replaced with? Do you have any plans to replace it? Or are you just going to let the elderly and vulnerable go and die because they didn't have the forethought to make a million to rely on?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I'll give you the rundown since you've obviously missed the memo.
Nothing. Just let all the chips fall as they will. That's right. Tough sh**. Suck it up. Nobody cares if the poor and elderly die in the streets. If people suffer it's because they lacked personal responsibility. It's called the "Just World Philosophy". If you can't get a job that pays enough to have anything left over from one paycheck to the next you're just a loser. You have no right to complain if you didn't even try to get an advanced degree while working the night shift to pay for it. Only sissy liberal weaklings need more than 2 hours of sleep per night.
Numbers and budgets are more important than a few irresponsible old wretches. The right fist of God demands we have a balanced budget. To do otherwise is immoral. What we need is more tax cuts for "job creators" because that's the moral thing to do. If tax revenue reductions don't create any new jobs they at least create an incentive for cutting medicare and medicaid to the bone. Ooops! Republicans voters aren't supposed to notice that little connection there. Just cut the damn taxes and repeat after me "it's not a revenue problem, it's a spending problem".
Fkng awesome that you finally see the light of reality.
The great conservative spirit has shown me the light. The almighty "job creators" must be appeased through tax cuts and elimination of social services. When they spend gazillions on political donations and lobbyists they expect something in return. I must humble myself before them and fear their horrible wrath.
14 Feb 2012, 11:00 am
Raptor wrote:
marshall wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
The notion that social security is going to go broke any time in the near future is a bunch of crap produced from the hind quarters of conservatives. Social security is the most successful government program yet. What would you suggest it be replaced with? Do you have any plans to replace it? Or are you just going to let the elderly and vulnerable go and die because they didn't have the forethought to make a million to rely on?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I'll give you the rundown since you've obviously missed the memo.
Nothing. Just let all the chips fall as they will. That's right. Tough sh**. Suck it up. Nobody cares if the poor and elderly die in the streets. If people suffer it's because they lacked personal responsibility. It's called the "Just World Philosophy". If you can't get a job that pays enough to have anything left over from one paycheck to the next you're just a loser. You have no right to complain if you didn't even try to get an advanced degree while working the night shift to pay for it. Only sissy liberal weaklings need more than 2 hours of sleep per night.
Numbers and budgets are more important than a few irresponsible old wretches. The right fist of God demands we have a balanced budget. To do otherwise is immoral. What we need is more tax cuts for "job creators" because that's the moral thing to do. If tax revenue reductions don't create any new jobs they at least create an incentive for cutting medicare and medicaid to the bone. Ooops! Republicans voters aren't supposed to notice that little connection there. Just cut the damn taxes and repeat after me "it's not a revenue problem, it's a spending problem".
Fkng awesome that you finally see the light of reality.
I wish all Republicans were as honest as Raptor. Everyone would finally see them for what they are.
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14 Feb 2012, 11:01 am
marshall wrote:
Raptor wrote:
marshall wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
The notion that social security is going to go broke any time in the near future is a bunch of crap produced from the hind quarters of conservatives. Social security is the most successful government program yet. What would you suggest it be replaced with? Do you have any plans to replace it? Or are you just going to let the elderly and vulnerable go and die because they didn't have the forethought to make a million to rely on?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I'll give you the rundown since you've obviously missed the memo.
Nothing. Just let all the chips fall as they will. That's right. Tough sh**. Suck it up. Nobody cares if the poor and elderly die in the streets. If people suffer it's because they lacked personal responsibility. It's called the "Just World Philosophy". If you can't get a job that pays enough to have anything left over from one paycheck to the next you're just a loser. You have no right to complain if you didn't even try to get an advanced degree while working the night shift to pay for it. Only sissy liberal weaklings need more than 2 hours of sleep per night.
Numbers and budgets are more important than a few irresponsible old wretches. The right fist of God demands we have a balanced budget. To do otherwise is immoral. What we need is more tax cuts for "job creators" because that's the moral thing to do. If tax revenue reductions don't create any new jobs they at least create an incentive for cutting medicare and medicaid to the bone. Ooops! Republicans voters aren't supposed to notice that little connection there. Just cut the damn taxes and repeat after me "it's not a revenue problem, it's a spending problem".
Fkng awesome that you finally see the light of reality.
The great conservative spirit has shown me the light. The almighty "job creators" must be appeased through tax cuts and elimination of social services. When they spend gazillions on political donations and lobbyists they expect something in return. I must humble myself before them and fear their horrible wrath.
And who are we, but mere worms, to expect anything good in this life, as we are not among the almighty job creators?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
14 Feb 2012, 1:24 pm
14 Feb 2012, 7:40 pm
Marshall wrote:
Quote:
The great conservative spirit has shown me the light. The almighty "job creators" must be appeased through tax cuts and elimination of social services. When they spend gazillions on political donations and lobbyists they expect something in return. I must humble myself before them and fear their horrible wrath.
What a proud day this is for the few conservatives there are left here. Marshall is finally seeing the light. I wish Inuyasha were here to see this.
CrazyCatLord wrote:
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I wish all Republicans were as honest as Raptor. Everyone would finally see them for what they are.
Yes, we are awesome aren’t we….
Quote:
And who are we, but mere worms, to expect anything good in this life, as we are not among the almighty job creators?
I would slam you for your liberal negativity but my heart is so full of joy over Marshall and CrazyCatLord going conservative that I can’t bring myself to it.
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14 Feb 2012, 9:18 pm
Raptor wrote:
Marshall wrote:
What a proud day this is for the few conservatives there are left here. Marshall is finally seeing the light. I wish Inuyasha were here to see this.
CrazyCatLord wrote:
Yes, we are awesome aren’t we….
I would slam you for your liberal negativity but my heart is so full of joy over Marshall and CrazyCatLord going conservative that I can’t bring myself to it.
Quote:
The great conservative spirit has shown me the light. The almighty "job creators" must be appeased through tax cuts and elimination of social services. When they spend gazillions on political donations and lobbyists they expect something in return. I must humble myself before them and fear their horrible wrath.
What a proud day this is for the few conservatives there are left here. Marshall is finally seeing the light. I wish Inuyasha were here to see this.
CrazyCatLord wrote:
Quote:
I wish all Republicans were as honest as Raptor. Everyone would finally see them for what they are.
Yes, we are awesome aren’t we….
Quote:
And who are we, but mere worms, to expect anything good in this life, as we are not among the almighty job creators?
I would slam you for your liberal negativity but my heart is so full of joy over Marshall and CrazyCatLord going conservative that I can’t bring myself to it.
If those guys are born again conservatives, then you'd have to immerse me, too. Lotsa luck in accomplishing that.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
15 Feb 2012, 12:56 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Marshall wrote:
What a proud day this is for the few conservatives there are left here. Marshall is finally seeing the light. I wish Inuyasha were here to see this.
CrazyCatLord wrote:
Yes, we are awesome aren’t we….
I would slam you for your liberal negativity but my heart is so full of joy over Marshall and CrazyCatLord going conservative that I can’t bring myself to it.
Quote:
The great conservative spirit has shown me the light. The almighty "job creators" must be appeased through tax cuts and elimination of social services. When they spend gazillions on political donations and lobbyists they expect something in return. I must humble myself before them and fear their horrible wrath.
What a proud day this is for the few conservatives there are left here. Marshall is finally seeing the light. I wish Inuyasha were here to see this.
CrazyCatLord wrote:
Quote:
I wish all Republicans were as honest as Raptor. Everyone would finally see them for what they are.
Yes, we are awesome aren’t we….
Quote:
And who are we, but mere worms, to expect anything good in this life, as we are not among the almighty job creators?
I would slam you for your liberal negativity but my heart is so full of joy over Marshall and CrazyCatLord going conservative that I can’t bring myself to it.
If those guys are born again conservatives, then you'd have to immerse me, too. Lotsa luck in accomplishing that.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Oh come on. You can be a job creator too. You just have to believe and let the spirit fill you.
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15 Feb 2012, 1:06 am
marshall wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Marshall wrote:
What a proud day this is for the few conservatives there are left here. Marshall is finally seeing the light. I wish Inuyasha were here to see this.
CrazyCatLord wrote:
Yes, we are awesome aren’t we….
I would slam you for your liberal negativity but my heart is so full of joy over Marshall and CrazyCatLord going conservative that I can’t bring myself to it.
Quote:
The great conservative spirit has shown me the light. The almighty "job creators" must be appeased through tax cuts and elimination of social services. When they spend gazillions on political donations and lobbyists they expect something in return. I must humble myself before them and fear their horrible wrath.
What a proud day this is for the few conservatives there are left here. Marshall is finally seeing the light. I wish Inuyasha were here to see this.
CrazyCatLord wrote:
Quote:
I wish all Republicans were as honest as Raptor. Everyone would finally see them for what they are.
Yes, we are awesome aren’t we….
Quote:
And who are we, but mere worms, to expect anything good in this life, as we are not among the almighty job creators?
I would slam you for your liberal negativity but my heart is so full of joy over Marshall and CrazyCatLord going conservative that I can’t bring myself to it.
If those guys are born again conservatives, then you'd have to immerse me, too. Lotsa luck in accomplishing that.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Oh come on. You can be a job creator too. You just have to believe and let the spirit fill you.
Hallelujah! I am born again!
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
15 Feb 2012, 7:01 am
